Am awaiting your response on as to your nonsense claim here:
Already given the response which you refuse to address directly.
Have you nothing but distortion to offer?
Let's see if you can grasp a tiny slice of here reality for a moment:
You made a claim.
I rebutted that claim in two posts as does the link in Hobo's post.
Saying that the original claim is your response to the rebuttals that directly addressed that claim makes no sense whatsoever except prove you to be too cowardly to respond to and address the rebuttals that addressed your claim.
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This is GREAT. Being 50 and having Sex with a 14 year old means I'm just a NORMAL Mormon. Thanks EAllusion, thanks Lots. Oh, by the way do you have a 14 to 16 year old daughter I can bless like Horny Holy Joe?
As disgusting at it might be, it really isn't pedophilia if the girl has reached puberty. When a girl reaches puberty she is sexually mature and ready to reproduce. Our sex drive doesn't calculate age, it measures sexual maturity. Male's are naturally attracted to sexually mature females. Pedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children. Unless Helen Mar Kimball or any of the others were pre-pubescent, we can't call Joseph Smith a pedophile. A better definition would be a sexual predator, using his position as prophet to take sexual advantage of young women.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
This is GREAT. Being 50 and having Sex with a 14 year old means I'm just a NORMAL Mormon. Thanks EAllusion, thanks Lots. Oh, by the way do you have a 14 to 16 year old daughter I can bless like Horny Holy Joe?
As disgusting at it might be, it really isn't pedophilia if the girl has reached puberty. When a girl reaches puberty she is sexually mature and ready to reproduce. Our sex drive doesn't calculate age, it measures sexual maturity. Male's are naturally attracted to sexually mature females. Pedophiles are attracted to pre-pubescent children. Unless Helen Mar Kimball or any of the others were pre-pubescent, we can't call Joseph Smith a pedophile. A better definition would be a sexual predator, using his position as prophet to take sexual advantage of young women.
I have neighbors that have girls ages 11 and 12 who have gone through puberty. Are they now fair game for NORMAL Mormons?
Point is that regardless of pedophilia, hebephilia, sexual predator, or any other unholy or impure name you want to give Horny Holy Joe's sexual deviance, it is FAR WORSE than two consenting ADULTS of the same or different gender being attracted to each other and engaging in consensual sexual activities. bcspace's comment about Homosexuals being Pedophiles is PROOF that Horny Holy Joe was a HOMOSEXUAL
The Mighty Builder wrote:This is GREAT. Being 50 and having Sex with a 14 year old means I'm just a NORMAL Mormon. Thanks EAllusion, thanks Lots. Oh, by the way do you have a 14 to 16 year old daughter I can bless like Horny Holy Joe?
I'm not saying older men taking advantage of young teenagers is morally Ok. I'm saying it doesn't meet the standard notion of what pedophilia is. There are legitmate disputes over the DSM criteria, but expanding it to 30 year olds attracted to 16 year olds like you seem to want to is way off course. Pedophilia is an issue of older people's sexual attraction to prepubescent children and early pubescents (11-14) at the oldest, though the latter is normally called hebephilia. Pedophilia is currently clinically defined by a person over the age of 16 with attraction for people under the age of 13 with at least a 5 year gap.
You also seem to be convinced Smith had sex with Helen Marr Kimball if I'm reading this post correctly, but we don't really know that as the evidence is unclear. It's very common in polygamous societies as they mature for men to "prospect" wives at younger and younger ages so they can have a full sexual relationship when they later mature. That's possibly what was going on there, and I'm not sure how you'd argue that this is any less likely than what you are asserting.
The Mighty Builder wrote:bcspace's comment about Homosexuals being Pedophiles is PROOF that Horny Holy Joe was a HOMOSEXUAL
Even if BCSpace was asserting all homosexuals are pedophiles, which he wasn't, it doesn't follow that he is asserting all pedophiles are homosexuals. All cats are mammals. All mammals are not cats.
BCSpace's assertion was ignorant and bigoted enough without you having to warp it. If anything, inapt criticisms distract from what is really wrong with what he is saying.
Nomomo wrote:Actually Bullsh1ter Joe would be more correctly termed a hebophile.
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"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
The Mighty Builder wrote:Being 50 and having Sex with a 14 year old means I'm just a NORMAL Mormon.
No, it would make you a rapist. Of course, if she is a willing participant, then it's statutory.
Being physically attracted to a developed 14-year-old girl just makes you a normal human male. Acting on that normal attraction is socially unacceptable and probably harmful to the young person. Don't do it.
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krose wrote: Being physically attracted to a developed 14-year-old girl just makes you a normal human male. Acting on that normal attraction is socially unacceptable and probably harmful to the young person. Don't do it.
Yup. When walking through the park, it is perfectly possible to see a nice flower, note that it is a really nice flower, and be pleased that you have seen it, without the thought of picking it coming to mind.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.