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Darth J wrote:
Kishkumen wrote:I hear they're also striking the troubling letter x from algebra.


We also need to remove the letter "y" from algebra, because trying to determine "y" encourages secular questioning of one's faith.

x's and y's? I had no idea algebra was so sexy.
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The bottom line is that there should be no tax payer funded schools of any kind, at least on the curriculum side. In other words, groups of parents/students should be selecting/hiring their own teachers.
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bcspace wrote:The bottom line is that there should be no tax payer funded schools of any kind, at least on the curriculum side. In other words, groups of parents/students should be selecting/hiring their own teachers.


This system worked for most pre-literate cultures. Why not give it a try now?
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It's how American was built. But your preliterate comparison is an error in correlation. The beauty of the free market system is that those who want an education will get it aat a reasonable cost whereas those being forced to be educated now are not really getting an actual education anyway and we are paying for it.
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bcspace wrote:It's how American was built. But your preliterate comparison is an error in correlation. The beauty of the free market system is that those who want an education will get it aat a reasonable cost whereas those being forced to be educated now are not really getting an actual education anyway and we are paying for it.


The beauty of the free market system is that we get our children "educated" with a slew of mutually contradictory conspiracy theory versions of history, creationism (it's what the buyers want), science denial, and best of all grades go to the highest bidder.

In short, every little cultural group gets to have their prejudices and superstitions confirmed ....or else. Facts are what the consumer demands they be.
Now what was an education for anyway?
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bcspace wrote:But your preliterate comparison is an error in correlation.


Okay. Preliteral was a bit over the top.

How about this: Lack of public education leads to highly stratified societies in which the upper classes are educated and the lower classes usually never learn to read or write.
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bcspace wrote:It's how American was built. But your preliterate comparison is an error in correlation. The beauty of the free market system is that those who want an education will get it aat a reasonable cost whereas those being forced to be educated now are not really getting an actual education anyway and we are paying for it.

Paying for public education, even for those who might be less than enthusiastic about school, is a whole lot less expensive in the long run than allowing folks to enter adulthood with little or no education.

I am now working in an area where the illiteracy rate is around 30%. It is difficult to appreciate (or even count) the ways that illiteracy on this scale costs society. The amount of money that is now being spent, per capita, to try to ensure that the local citizenry can function on more than a bare subsistence level (even two generations hence) is staggering.
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bcspace and Droopy are two of the reasons why I almost never consider voting Republican any longer.
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Public education is supposed to be a leveling field, not some kind of disparate field of little fiefdoms of demagogues telling people how it is. Applying “Free Market” economics to social policy is a poor strategy and would only create a bunch of insular pockets of communities self segregated along cultural, ideological, economic and ethnic lines. This is counter intuitive to what I would think be a conservative conscience well versed in their own background.
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MrStakhanovite wrote:Public education is supposed to be a leveling field, not some kind of disparate field of little fiefdoms of demagogues telling people how it is. Applying “Free Market” economics to social policy is a poor strategy and would only create a bunch of insular pockets of communities self segregated along cultural, ideological, economic and ethnic lines. This is counter intuitive to what I would think be a conservative conscience well versed in their own background.


Well, there is a difference between the sane Republicans of old and these hacks.
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