BC's "true colors" comment was based on my use of the F word as a reaction to a comment he made. I apologize if I offended him, or anyone else. However, I do, once in a while, use an expletive when I am upset, or attempting to make a point.
I would like to explore what prompted my reaction, if I may:
Here was my post, listing the "survival tips" for making it through Sacrament Meeting if you were attending to keep the family peace:
Liz wrote:
Liz wrote:Here are some survival tips:
1. Buy an iPad for yourself. Tell your wife you are buying it for scriptures. The power of the iPad allow you to download books, movies, games, and music that will easily keep you entertained through three hours of Church. If you have a WiFi hotspot, you can even surf the net and say hi to your Mormon Discussion friends!
2. Buy your kids an iPod Touch (They have scriptures, too, Mom). The iPod Touch is about half the cost of on iPad, but has the same operating system and similar capabilities. Make sure they are using their earbuds or have the sound turned down during
Church.
3. Bring some non-messy snacks like cereal, licorice, fish crackers, bottled water, (I bring a cold Pepsi in a thermos).
Bribe your kids before going. Tell them that as long as they are quiet with their electronic toys, and behave during Church, you guys will do
something fun later. If they act up in Church, no iPod for a week.
Church can be fun! OR at least survivable.
If you cannot afford an iPod or iPad, there are other electronic
alternatives such as cell phones, portable DVD players, and eReaders.
To this, BC replied the following:
BC wrote:
BC wrote:Won't work as we notice such things. One of the TR questions is about attending one's meetings. We don't count that as attendance nor would we advance a young man in the priesthood who does that. No peace.
BC was indicating a couple of things here. First of all, he was stating that if someone is looking at an iPad or a cell phone during Church, that person is not counted as attending that particular meeting. He is also indicating that if someone was looking at an iPad, cell phone, or some other type of electronic device during Sacrament Meeting that this person would FAIL the TR question regarding attending meetings. He further indicated that this same individual would not be advanced in the priesthood due to this.
THAT is what prompted my anger and the following response:
Liz wrote:
Liz wrote:Give me a f***** break, BC!
You and I would not want to tangle if we were in the same stake.
So, BC, exploitatives aside, please address the questions I asked:
How is it concluded, for attendance purposes, if someone is not paying attention? Do you, for instance, instruct the Ward Clerk to mark people not present who are playing with their iPods?
I would also appreciate an answer to these questions:
Why was the family not allowed to enter the temple with their son to get his endowments? I understand if you feel that you cannot give specifics, but can you please address whether or not their "unworthiness" involved merely "paying attention" during Church meetings?
This group of questions is in response to this quote from you here:
BC wrote:
BC wrote:It's not too difficult to identify a NOM family.
We've got one right now whose son, to their obvious consternation, has
been called on a mission and is going. They want to go through the
temple with him, but it's not going to happen. Maybe when he gets
back.....
And....this group of questions:
What, exactly, is discussed in these "meetings" regarding NOMs? What are your goals? How do you expect these goals to be obtained? What is your action plan?
These questions are in response to your statement here:
BC wrote:
BC wrote:It's useless for a NOM to think he or she can hide
without consequence. We've actually had Regional and Stake leadership
meetings on this issue.
BC...I am not trying to argue with you, or "catch" you in any way. I seriously want to understand where you are coming from.
Will you please answer my questions? I think they are pretty straight-forward.
