An Open Letter to Europe Area Presidency

[_sock puppet]

It's the lazy and intransigent who don't care who are staying in the church along with the angry apologists and neo-Bircher fanatics.

Sounds like the LDS church is on its way to becoming a U.S. political party.

[_Themis]

Most of those that are having trouble have not seen and spoken with the Lord and truly sought him as they should have.

From the guy who couldn't bother to seek God himself.

[_Maxrep]

Defenders of the Church frequently point out that it is not their responsibility to present negative information about the Church. What else is that other than an admission that they are presenting "half-truths"?

Well stated!

[_ludwigm]

Apparently in other european countries there are no members Who Struggle with Faith and Testimony.
(Or, maybe, the word Europe has a slightly different meaning...)

Members in Albania, Andorra, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, France, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Kosovo, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Moldova, Monaco, Montenegro, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, San Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Ukraina, (I've nearly forgot the non-german-speaking part of Switzerland) - well, these members are solid and robust in faith, the church is well-founded in these countries.

OOOOOpppsss! Vatican...

If I had the honours to use the [img] feature, I could show You a map of Europe. HERE

[_Fence Sitter]

From the Chris Ralph letter

It is disconcerting when our children alert us to the true facts of this crucial event in Mormon history after watching an episode of South Park. The discovery that the creators of South Park place a higher value on historical authenticity than do the Brethren creates spiritual shock-waves from which some members never recover.

The letter is worth reading.

[_Tchild]

No kidding. The problem with Mormonism is that every single one of its truth claims is obviously false.

So, which are the obviously "true" claims of Mormonism?

[_Bob Loblaw]

So, which are the obviously "true" claims of Mormonism?

Joseph Smith lived.
The Book of Mormon is a book.
Thomas Monson leads the church today.

[_Cicero]

So, which are the obviously "true" claims of Mormonism?

Joseph Smith lived.
The Book of Mormon is a book.
Thomas Monson leads the church today.

I wonder if there are any lurking apologists reading this thread that are just dying to jump in and tell us that there is no such thing as a truth versus a half truth since "there are no facts, only interpretations . . . "

[_Chap]

Thanks for the new sigline, Brother Ralph.

[_Cicero]

This has always really bothered me as well:

It has long been a puzzle to me how we, as a church, might teach that the glory of God is intelligence, while, at the same time promoting the idea that when it comes to historical realities, ignorance is accounted a virtue