It is official...Mormons are politically diverse

[_MCB]

Droopy, why don't you just let go of it? Every time you post, you dig yourself in deeper.

[_Jason Bourne]

No need. "Democrat", "Liberal", "Socialist" are just catchall words to categorize the wicked. Just because the Church is publicly neutral doesn't mean it accepts the doctrines of those groups. In addition, I have never sat anyone down and because they are Democrat, denied them a TR.

While it is true that a Democrat is not worthy to hold a TR, you're approaching this from the wrong angle, the Church angle rather than the God angle. A TR merely says you have said you accept the path, it does not say what direction on that path you're taking. Holding a TR commits you to the doctrine and since this is not minor doctrine we are talking about, a Democrat is by nature unworthy to hold a TR. The Church doesn't make that judgement but the doctrine and scriptures do.

I can tell you from experience that most members and those in leadership hold this view. The Democrats in the congregation know it and that is why they are afraid to speak up and defend their view; because they know they are in opposition to the Church.

Simple gyrations in order to sear your guilt in disobeying your leaders. What amzing mental gymnastics you are capable of.

[_ldsfaqs]

http://mormontopics.org/eng/politics

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints encourages its members to participate in the political process wherever they live. The Church wants its members to be well informed, to vote and otherwise contribute to principles of good citizenship. In all of the nations in which the Church is established, it is neutral in matters of party politics.

In Politics, the Mormon Church Does Not:

• Endorse, promote, or oppose political parties, candidates, or platforms.

• Allow its church buildings, membership lists or other resources to be used for partisan political purposes.

• Attempt to direct its members as to which candidate or party they should give their votes to. This policy applies whether or not a candidate for office is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

• Attempt to direct or dictate to a government leader.

This from Mormon.org

Got it BC and Droopy if you are lurking. You are in opposition to LDS official doctrine by taking the position LDS democrats should not hold temple recommmends. Repent. Now.

Actually, you should learn to read between the lines better and see the actual FACTS stated.

The statement states that it doesn't support or oppose "political party's".
It doesn't say anything about not being against certain ideology's and for others.

LDS Doctrine is most certainly against Liberal Ideology and for Conservative Ideology.
Yes, it doesn't directly say that, but the Ideology's in the Church and the Scriptures are Conservative ones, not liberal ones.

Conservative = Freedom / Church = Freedom
Liberalism = Statism & Compelled Righteousness/Charity etc. / Church = Anti-Statism & Compelled Righteousness/Charity etc.

To break it down, the Church and Conservatism is against Satan's plan of salvation, while Liberalism is greatly for it.

And much much more....

[_Drifting]

Conservative = Freedom / Church = Freedom
Liberalism = Statism & Compelled Righteousness/Charity etc. / Church = Anti-Statism & Compelled Righteousness/Charity etc.

Conservative = freedom to choose conservative but if you don't you're wrong.
Church = freedom to choose Church but punishment and eternal damnation if you don't.
Liberalism = freedom to choose freedom and equality.

[_ldsfaqs]

Conservative = Freedom / Church = Freedom
Liberalism = Statism & Compelled Righteousness/Charity etc. / Church = Anti-Statism & Compelled Righteousness/Charity etc.

Conservative = freedom to choose conservative but if you don't you're wrong.
Church = freedom to choose Church but punishment and eternal damnation if you don't.
Liberalism = freedom to choose freedom and equality.

More liberal anti-mormon bearing false witness.

1. There IS such a thing as right and wrong. Everything is based on Eternal Law, not just "science".

2. The Church teaches you are free to choose good or evil..... Damnation only comes when you choose evil, and it's not the Church doing it, it's yourself. You can't choose the consequences of your actions, you are bound by Eternal Law. You can only choose your actions, whether they be good or evil, right or wrong.

Mormonism does not and never has taught that if you don't choose Church you are damned. It only teaches man is to choose righteousness, no matter the "Church" or not.

3. Notice how you have no "negative" in your liberal statement. It's ONLY Freedom and Equality to you. Problem is, the liberal version of freedom and equality is your way or the highway. Conservatives don't try to shut down your speech, yet you all try to to us. We don't tell you how you can defend yourself, what to eat and drink, what light bulb to use, on and on and on.

When are you going to learn that you are following a lie??? Liberalism isn't for freedom and equality, conservatism is.

[_Drifting]

1. There IS such a thing as right and wrong. Everything is based on Eternal Law, not just "science".

In Eternal Law is murder right or wrong?
In Eternal Law is building a shopping complex right or wrong?
In Eternal Law is discriminating against people because of sex, race, or religion right or wrong?
What about telling untruths or hiding truths, right or wrong Eternally speaking?

Also, which Eternal Law? The one you believe in or the one other people believe in?

[_Cinnamon Bear Head]

Conservatives are pro-freedom? What are you smoking?

Not pot, the cons claim the right to make that choice for you.
They also claim a right to your personal property on penalty of kidnapping to fund wars.
They use these wars to keep certain brown people enslaved by their dictators and kings. Not to mention overthrowing democratic elected governments.

Is that it? Well no.....

They claim the right to define marriage over a minority, through force.
They are in favor of gun laws that contradict the 2nd amendment (tell me where concealed carry appears there?).
They wage a war on drugs, imprisoning the highest number and rate of prisoners in the whole world.
They support taxes, fees, regulations etc. all of which are an initiation of force on peaceful people in order to steal their money at the threat of violence.
They seek to use force to regulate the airwaves and regulate porn away from consenting adults.
They Threaten and initiate force on peaceful humans to fund corporate welfare. (let's see, who did TARP? Oh yeah, Bush, McCain, and that guy Ryan.
They threaten and force people to buy a product they may not want and implement socialized medicine. (Hmmmmmmm........Didn't that cat Romney do something like this that Obama copied?


Worst of all, they suspended habeus corpus, rule of law, the 4th amendment, due process. They start illegal wars and assassinate US citizens. They spied illegally on US and foreign citizens and then passed laws to retroactively pardon telecom companies who broke the law for them. No knock raids, wiretapping, spying, all without warrants. Being held without charges, citizens or not.The US F-ing Patriot Act and let's not forget the TSA is also a conservative baby.
Conservatives are one side of the statist coin, liberals are the other.

[_PrickKicker]

Face it, your God doesn't want you if he did he would have backed Satan's plan.

[_Jason Bourne]

Actually, you should learn to read between the lines better and see the actual FACTS stated.

Snip the rest of the rigth wing is my religions bull hucky...

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Actually FAQS you and BC are as much a cafeteria Mormon as you may think I am. You reject what the Church says when it you don't like it as much as I may. We just pick different things. You, Droopy and BC have a ploitcal hobby horse that you want the Church to follow and you want to make it part of the Church doctrine and policy. But the Church itself says it does not oppose any political party. Plain and simple.

[_Jason Bourne]

Actually, you should learn to read between the lines better and see the actual FACTS stated.

Snip the rest of the rigth wing is my religions bull hucky...

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Actually FAQS you and BC are as much a cafeteria Mormon as you may think I am. You reject what the Church says when it is something you don't like. You do at as much as I do. We just pick different things. You, Droopy and BC have a politica hobby horse that you want the Church to follow and you want to make it part of the Church doctrine and policy. But the Church itself says it does not oppose any political party. Plain and simple. Yet you twist mince and gyrate to make it so.