Tobin wrote:I view as anti-Mormon as anything that discredits the claims that the gospel is inspired of God, that God is real, that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, that the scriptures are true, and that tries to dissuade one from seeking and speaking with God to learn the truth regarding these matters...
Ah, so you consider things like facts, intelligence, rational thought, scientific study and reality to be "anti-mormon"...Got it! Your posts suddenly make so much more sense.
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
Tobin wrote:I view as anti-Mormon as anything that discredits the claims that the gospel is inspired of God, that God is real, that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, that the scriptures are true, and that tries to dissuade one from seeking and speaking with God to learn the truth regarding these matters...
Ah, so you consider things like facts, intelligence, rational thought, scientific study and reality to be "anti-mormon"...Got it! Your posts suddenly make so much more sense.
Not really. I do consider people like you that make misrepresentations of what is actually said and the "facts" themselves as anti-Mormon and anti-truth as well. You aren't interested in an honest discussion, but instead resort to transparent and callous lies. You literally have no scruples at all and are willing to go to any depths in your mischaracterizations.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:Not really. I do consider people like you that make misrepresentations of what is actually said and the "facts" themselves as anti-Mormon and anti-truth as well. You aren't interested in an honest discussion, but instead resort to transparent and callous lies.
Again, please show us where the "facts" on mormonthink have been "misrepresented"...Or did god just come down and tell you that there are misrepresentations on the site without you actually having to do any work? Admit it, you are just embarrassed that the "facts" are not favorable to your pet beliefs...Its sad that the truth is so offensive to you.
Tobin wrote:You literally have no scruples at all and are willing to go to any depths in your mischaracterizations.
CFR.
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
son of Ishmael wrote:So something can be anti-moron even if it is true?
Yes. The most persuasive misrepresentations (or lies) are absolutely true. It is often the conclusions or application of the facts that is the problem. Truth requires integrity thoughtout. Deception can be involved at an step along the way. This is how Satan (and those that follow him) work. They will tell 99.99% of the truth, and then they will get you with one small deceit. The deceit almost always leads one away from God, so it is easy to see it when it occurs - even if you can not see through the lie because you lack the knowledge.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:Not really. I do consider people like you that make misrepresentations of what is actually said and the "facts" themselves as anti-Mormon and anti-truth as well. You aren't interested in an honest discussion, but instead resort to transparent and callous lies.
Again, please show us where the "facts" on mormonthink have been "misrepresented"...Or did god just come down and tell you that there are misrepresentations on the site without you actually having to do any work? Admit it, you are just embarrassed that the "facts" are not favorable to your pet beliefs...Its sad that the truth is so offensive to you.
I did not make that claim. As I've said, the only person it seems interested in misrepresenting things is you.
schreech wrote:
Tobin wrote:You literally have no scruples at all and are willing to go to any depths in your mischaracterizations.
CFR.
schreech wrote:
Tobin wrote:I view as anti-Mormon as anything that discredits the claims that the gospel is inspired of God, that God is real, that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, that the scriptures are true, and that tries to dissuade one from seeking and speaking with God to learn the truth regarding these matters...
Ah, so you consider things like facts, intelligence, rational thought, scientific study and reality to be "anti-mormon"...Got it! Your posts suddenly make so much more sense.
<-- This is an example of YOU MISCHARACTERIZING about what I said.
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"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
son of Ishmael wrote:So something can be anti-moron even if it is true?
Yes. The most persuasive misrepresentations (or lies) are absolutely true. It is often the conclusions or application of the facts that is the problem. Truth requires integrity thoughtout. Deception can be involved at an step along the way. This is how Satan (and those that follow him) work. They will tell 99.99% of the truth, and then they will get you with one small deceit. The deceit almost always leads one away from God, so it is easy to see it when it occurs - even if you can not see through the lie because you lack the knowledge.
Now can we get an example from the MT website?
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Tobin wrote:Yes. The most persuasive misrepresentations (or lies) are absolutely true.
LOL - that may be going in my sig...please, provide an example of this happening...
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
Tobin wrote:Yes. The most persuasive misrepresentations (or lies) are absolutely true.
LOL - that may be going in my sig...please, provide an example of this happening...
I was thinking it would make a great siggy, too.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Tobin wrote: did not make that claim. As I've said, the only person it seems interested in misrepresenting things is you.
still no examples i see...
Tobin wrote:<-- This is an example of YOU MISCHARACTERIZING about what I said.
Not a mis-characterization at all. You said "I view as anti-Mormon as anything that discredits the claims that the gospel..." AND, unfortunately for you, things like "facts, intelligence, rational thought, scientific study and reality" discredit Mormon teachings....Not only that, the cfr was for me having NO scruples...Please tell me how you know this considering most people think I am a pretty good guy? Did god also tell you this during your visitation? If so, I would be concerned about which god you were visited by - loki can be a tricky one...
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
Tobin wrote:Yes. The most persuasive misrepresentations (or lies) are absolutely true.
LOL - that may be going in my sig...please, provide an example of this happening...
Romney is Mormon and as a result, he should not be elected as president.
It is 100% true that he is Mormon. The application is biased and false however.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
