I think most rational people would reject the premise that any progress at all in those areas vis a vis the LDS Church needs to be made in the first place.
You didn't even click the link.
Didn't have to. I am familiar with LDS doctrine.
Jeezus
Name's Brian actually.
Here's something sinister for you though. Do you think the first example in the list implies plural marriage? To the Young Women, the word was "family". To the Young Men, the word was "families".
I don't recall the doctrine that girls and boys need to be taught the same topic in a different manner.
Here's something sinister for you though. Do you think the first example in the list implies plural marriage? To the Young Women, the word was "family". To the Young Men, the word was "families".
LOL
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
I got it. Take a keg and a tap to priesthood meeting. Tell the young men that its their place to tap that.
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
Ask the young women to search "The Family: A Proclamation to the World" and find what the proclamation teaches about gender and the divine roles of fathers and mothers. How is this different than what the world teaches?
Does the church really want to go there? We can also read the Book of Mormon and find what it teaches about skin color. How is this different than what the world teaches? We can read D&C 132 and find what it teaches about marriage. How is this different than what the world teaches? You see, kids, this is why Mormons are a peculiar people.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
bcspace wrote:I think most rational people would reject the premise that any progress at all in those areas vis a vis the LDS Church needs to be made in the first place.
That's true, but that's because most rational people would reject the premise that the teachings of the LDS Church have any relevance to anything that happens in the real world.
Cicero wrote:If you are one that preaches that the Church has made significant progress in the area of women's rights and gender roles generally, then this side-by-side analysis of the brand new manuals should make you reconsider your position.
Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them (D&C 132:20).
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
Fence Sitter wrote:"Rational people" see a male dominated religious society trying to maintain control through youthful indoctrination. Make sure Susie is raised to believe God wants her to be an incubator and leave all that leadership stuff to the boys.
Welcome back to the 1960s and Fascinating Womanhood.
Yeah, welcome back to the sixties. The last train to civilization left sometime in '68, and the bridge is still out.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
SteelHead wrote:I got to go with DarthJ. The word rationale is an oxymoron when applied to the religious. Religion requires the subjugation if reason to faith.
The fact of the matter is that vast numbers of extremely rational and educated people do not take this kind of shallow, intellectually facile atheism seriously, preferring to approach such questions with with philosophical depth and close reasoning.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us
- President Ezra Taft Benson
I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.
bcspace wrote:I think most rational people would reject the premise that any progress at all in those areas vis a vis the LDS Church needs to be made in the first place.
No true Scotsman!
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
