AmyJo..... you've questioned my statement that anti's lie...

[_Bret Ripley]

Not only that, but efforts to stop the Faith of Mormons directly goes against Christ's own words on the subject in Mark/Luke 9.

Next time you refer to "Christ's own words" and name two chapters of the New Testament, might you be so kind as to quote the portions of those books that you are referring to? There are many here who are unfamiliar with the Bible itself and speaking only for myself, I have no clue what you're referencing or why you are referencing it unless you quote chapter and verse.

I'm not completely certain, but I think he may refer to Mark 9:39-40 (“Do not forbid him ... For he that is not against us is for us) and its parallel Luke 9:50 (Do not forbid him; for he that is not against you is for you).

[_canpakes]

If I go on a Catholic board, I don't lie about it's history, it's leaders words, Catholic doctrine, etc. in order to be critical of the Catholic Church, it's leaders, etc.. I might make the rare misunderstanding, but I read and relay the history doctrines etc. for what they are and what they believe. I don't create a lying characterization of everything I say about them.
This is what normal good people do.

And this is what I observe most critics of the LDS Church do here, especially the regulars. They pretty much rely on the records and words from the Church's own sources to make their points.

I had much the same experience when looking into the faith. Seems that unless you were born into it and conditioned by exposure from the beginning, it does not appear to match what it purports to be.

That being said, folks who still label themselves as believers have a hard time reconciling the differences and contradictions in doctrine and history. Yourself, you aren't even aligned with what the Church currently states about the Book of Abraham. How can you justify accusing anyone else of 'misrepresenting' the Church and its claims when you can't even keep them straight?

What I'm trying to show anti-mormons, is that what they do comes from the influence of evil, the devil himself.

This is the laziest and most incompetent stand that a person can take. This is to admit that you cannot defend your own views or claims, and as well desire to construct a back door to slink out of in order to escape responsibility for any of your own past or potential failings.

[_AmyJo]

The Mormon church is ALL LIES. I lived that ugly religion long enough. It destroys families and lives. I'm here to assist others in finding their way out of the labyrinth of the den of liars and thieves. And I'm here to discuss ex-Mormon topics. Not to debate my religion with you. If you want a debate, you aren't going to get it from me.

I know what I know. A lie is a lie is a lie is a lie, and you are living a bold faced lie! You're living the sanitized version of Mormon dogma. I could care less what you believe, honestly. I don't have time for your nonsense. Been there done that. No more - I'm free!

And I'm not here to defend my faith or what I believe other than the Mormon church worships a false idol (money and control,) and therefore a pagan god! Go read all the REAL Mormon HISTORY. If you're really intelligent you'll do that. It doesn't worship the God of the Bible, the REAL Bible.

Why are you here? You know we aren't going to re-convert to the cult that you're defending. Why does it matter to you what we believe anyway? Hmm?? Are you trying to be a missionary, or just annoying? Because missionaries don't try to force their views on others, and neither does Christ.

He knocks at the door to the heart. It's up to you to answer, if you dare. Christ isn't packaged inside Mormon dogma. The church worships false prophets, and a false unholy Bible.

It's plain as day you are deceived. I hope you find your way in this life.

[_Fence Sitter]

Okay now, AJ is sounding a whole lot like an Anti version of LdsFAQS.

[_Maksutov]

Okay now, AJ is sounding a whole lot like an Anti version of LdsFAQS.

It's Duck God vs Rabbit God. Again.

[Guest]

Okay now, AJ is sounding a whole lot like an Anti version of LdsFAQS.

Not at all... I actually deal with the facts and subject matter, and then I'm critical of actual wrong doing.

AmyJo just spouts bigoted rhetoric with little to no substance.

I'm still waiting for her to give us a few examples of lying in those articles.
It's because she can't..... because we show the anti-mormon claims as the true liars, while it's all her "feelings" that tells her we are the liars.

[Guest]

When it comes to religion, there are no facts, only opinions. Un falsifiable ideas based on supernatural premises do not facts make.

Though the my god can beat up yours exchange is great for entertainment.

[_ldsfaqs]

Mormonism, itself, is an attack on historical Christianity and who fired the first shot?
Stop whining

Buzz wrong....!

1. A general statement of belief is not the same thing as attacking religions and faiths directly.

2. Religious Anti-Mormons are in full blown war against everyone they view as "cults"..... so tell me again who fired the "first shot"?

3. You all again "miss the point"...... Mormons don't care if people feel the need to be attackers instead of teachers and uplifters, (even though we don't consider that to be good and of God) the problem is the bearing false witness.

None of you have yet addressed that.....
Just those 3 articles alone, likely 500 lies stated against Mormonism, that we then correct with the actual truth and facts.

Again, why do you all feel the need to lie and misrepresent a subject in order to be critical of it?
Most of the time you all are attacking your own strawmen, not who we actually are and believe.

We are fine if you have theological differences, want to try and prove one theology better than another, or our leader against your leader who's better, etc.... but that's not what you all do, you lie instead and then are often critical of the lie.

Lying about others is not Christian..... so why do religious anti-mormons do it so willingly?
Again, we are not talking about whether you think our religion is a lie or otherwise, we are talking about YOUR actions.

If Mormonism was so false, it should be false on it's own. People shouldn't have to tell 1,000's of lies in order to be critical of it.
But YOU DO.....

[_Quasimodo]

Okay now, AJ is sounding a whole lot like an Anti version of LdsFAQS.

It's Duck God vs Rabbit God. Again.

It's all good! Ldsfaqs is here to save us all from people like AmyJo and AmyJo is here to save us all from people like ldsfaqs.

We can't lose.

[_ldsfaqs]

When it comes to religion, there are no facts, only opinions. In falsifiable ideas based on supernatural premises do not facts make.

Though the my god can beat up yours exchange is great for entertainment.

Not true at all....

There are facts, and then there are the opinions thereby.

Again, we aren't talking about the my god can beat up your god debate, I'm talking about the willful misrepresenting of things in order to attack them.
Again, I've sometimes went on a Catholic board or otherwise for example, and discussed their theology etc.
Yes, I'm sometimes critical of it, but when I'm doing so, I don't LIE about it first, to then be critical of it.

Like I don't say the Catholic Mass is actually Cannibalism like Muslim or Jewish anti-Catholics might. That would be lying, because it's a gross misrepresentation of what they believe. Anti-Mormons do the same thing.
by the way, as a point of interest, the most passionate religious "anti's" against other religions in this world are Evangelicals/Protestants and Muslims. Pretty much no one else has anti-ministry's save some fringe groups and individuals. So, really tells you the "source" of the bigotry.... the devil.

Can you not see the difference?