Letter sent to SP's - damage control.

[_RockSlider]

We are invited to help people with questions not jump to unwarranted conclusions or interpretations and remain calm while we wait for clarification.”

i.e. Bishops, cease and desist your witch hunts until we can figure out how to keep all these kids off of JD's new Suffer the children web site.

[_why me]

https://www.Facebook.com/johndehlinpublic/

A post by Dehlin quotes a Stake President telling his Bishops that the Seventy have told him that the FP and Q12 are working on clarifying the new policy and requesting they help members not to be too hasty.

It has been reported to me that the following statement was sent out by a stake president to his stake leadership:
"Brethren, the following short statement was sent out by the Presidency of the 70 today related to the recent changes to the Handbook of Instructions:
"There will be additional clarification on these changes from the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve in the coming days. We are invited to help people with questions not jump to unwarranted conclusions or interpretations and remain calm while we wait for clarification.”

It's a bit ironic asking the members to take a more patient and thoughtful approach to making decisions.
Have they absolutely no self awareness?

I said this exactly on a different thread. People are over-reacting at the moment. Much better to take a deep breath and let the dust settle. But of course, quite a few members of this board, flew off the handle, willingly trashing the LDS church without seeing just how the policy will go into effect.

Of course, if I were out of the church, I would probably be jumping all over this policy like winnie the pooh and a bucket of honey. But...much better to relax and wait and see.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

We are invited to help people with questions not jump to unwarranted conclusions or interpretations and remain calm while we wait for clarification.”

There are no unwarranted conclusions happening. The policy is crystal clear. Let's do a tl;dr on the Church's new policy:

Children of those faggots aren't worth Christ's redemption until they turn some arbitrary number or make their parents feel like garbage and renounce them, and even then only the First Presidency will approve their worthiness of Christ's redemptive powers. damned faggot offspring, that's what they are.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Of course, if I were out of the church, I would probably be jumping all over this policy like winnie the pooh and a bucket of honey. But...much better to relax and wait and see.

Why Me,

Wait. Are you an active member? Do you pay tithing and fast offerings? Did you serve a mission? Are you temple married?

I must be misremembering, because I thought you were an apostate that also believes in the Catholic church. I could be wrong, though.

- Doc

[_annie]

I said this exactly on a different thread. People are over-reacting at the moment. Much better to take a deep breath and let the dust settle. But of course, quite a few members of this board, flew off the handle, willingly trashing the LDS church without seeing just how the policy will go into effect.

Of course, if I were out of the church, I would probably be jumping all over this policy like winnie the pooh and a bucket of honey. But...much better to relax and wait and see.

They're going to deliver further clarification because people have been jumping all over this policy, you twit.

[_RockSlider]

Hey whyme, DrW rejected my first suggestion, googling all over annie's suggestions. What do you think of this one:

Folks, settle down, don't you remember the first manifesto? It was a political maneuver we never had any intention of actually enforcing it. We just needed this stuff on the books and say we have enforcement.

[_I have a question]

I said this exactly on a different thread. People are over-reacting at the moment. Much better to take a deep breath and let the dust settle. But of course, quite a few members of this board, flew off the handle, willingly trashing the LDS church without seeing just how the policy will go into effect.

I will explain this to you once, and once only. The responsibility for reading and understanding what I'm posting is yours and yours alone. The policy is already in effect. Right now. The first words of the policy are "Effective immediately". As I said at the start, it's your responsibility to ensure you comprehend what that terminology means.
The same applies to the wording of the rest of the policy. It's clear, it's plain, it's unequivocal. There is no misunderstanding (except perhaps you) as to what the policy says. There is no misunderstanding (except perhaps you) as to how Bishops are to deal with the very specific situations detailed in the new policy. This isn't about people understanding (except perhaps you) the policy. This is about people disagreeing with it. End of.

Now, understanding what I've just said to you is your responsibility, not mine.

Of course, if I were out of the church, I would probably be jumping all over this policy like winnie the pooh and a bucket of honey. But...much better to relax and wait and see.

What a completely insensitive and thoughtless thing to say. People are contemplating suicide because of how this policy makes them feel about themselves and you compare that to Winnie the Pooh.

[_why me]

Why Me,

Wait. Are you an active member? Do you pay tithing and fast offerings? Did you serve a mission? Are you temple married?

I must be misremembering, because I thought you were an apostate that also believes in the Catholic church. I could be wrong, though.

- Doc

Not really. But then again I don't have a gripe with the LDS church. I think that former members are quick to react to such things because of their former testimony. They seem to need to drown their former testimony and look for means to do so. And many marginal members look for reasons to join the ranks of former members and this overreaction would be a reason to do so.

But such hostility, I believe, comes from having a testimony at one time of the church.

[_I have a question]

Secret video taping of Q12/FP/KM/PR meeting to discuss public backlash...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR6wok7g7do

[Guest]

What a completely insensitive and thoughtless thing to say. People are contemplating suicide because of how this policy makes them feel about themselves and you compare that to Winnie the Pooh.

This should not be something that people should contemplate suicide about. And it is unfortunate if they do contemplate suicide over such an issue. In fact, if I felt the LDS church did not welcome me because of a recent policy, I would leave and celebrate my freedom. This would be a healthy response. Of course, those who are contemplating suicide over this issue need help fast. But we do need to put life into perspective and not let any organization or person cause someone to kill themselves.

However, the reaction of some people on this forum could cause someone to kill themselves, all this talk of eternal damnation and loss of blessing etc. We all know that no child will be punished in the after life because of this policy. All will be blessed.