Richard Lloyd Anderson’s daughter arrested for “ritualistic sex abuse.”

[yellowstone123]

The thoughts of Doctor Peterson are pretty much correct since the population was mainly Mormon. If you were in an area that was mainly Catholic, you would see the same thing.

[Canadiandude2]

The thoughts of Doctor Peterson are pretty much correct since the population was mainly Mormon. If you were in an area that was mainly Catholic, you would see the same thing.

Which thoughts in particular?

Directly quote then state the degree to which you agree/disagree and why.

What is the position you are arguing against? Who here specifically is making that position- relative to the other positions emphasized by themself or others?

If Peterson noted that Mormons are particularly well-represented as subjects of criminal investigations in Utah- then yes I agree that this is likely due to their proportion of the population- though a more detailed and empirical statistical analysis based on cases from the (regional) population would better demonstrate this . Edit: damn I’m wordy.

On the other hand- it is the apologists’ responsibility to be clearer on both the subject and degree to which substantial church membership is supposed to make populations ‘better’, and act as a protective factor against criminality and other defined issues/problems.

Mechanisms for ‘why’ also needs to be explained, as there needs to be a logical, and evidenced explanation for the process so as to compare and contrast alternative explanations that also try to model and explain the phenomenon.

If your argument is that active and earnest members of the church don’t seem to possess any supernatural means of discerning empirical error, harmful actors, or antisocial behaviour- I agree.

The church’s leadership and doctrine however do not.

[Canadiandude2]

It is also quite possible I misunderstood the implications meant by your post. Sorry.

Peterson is broken clock. He can occasionally be correct but that’s all I’ll grant him.

[Gadianton]

He would convince patients that they had been victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse and then recommend that they have sex with him as a "cure."

Talk about taking "every accusation a confession" to the next level.

[Res Ipsa]

He would convince patients that they had been victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse and then recommend that they have sex with him as a "cure."

Talk about taking "every accusation a confession" to the next level.

Yeah. I had a case about a Bhuddist Monk who claimed to cut all kinds of ills with this method.

[yellowstone123]

The thoughts of Doctor Peterson are pretty much correct since the population was mainly Mormon. If you were in an area that was mainly Catholic, you would see the same thing.

Which thoughts in particular?

Directly quote then state the degree to which you agree/disagree and why.

What is the position you are arguing against? Who here specifically is making that position- relative to the other positions emphasized by themself or others?

If Peterson noted that Mormons are particularly well-represented as subjects of criminal investigations in Utah- then yes I agree that this is likely due to their proportion of the population- though a more detailed and empirical statistical analysis based on cases from the (regional) population would better demonstrate this . Edit: damn I’m wordy.

On the other hand- it is the apologists’ responsibility to be clearer on both the subject and degree to which substantial church membership is supposed to make populations ‘better’, and act as a protective factor against criminality and other defined issues/problems.

Mechanisms for ‘why’ also needs to be explained, as there needs to be a logical, and evidenced explanation for the process so as to compare and contrast alternative explanations that also try to model and explain the phenomenon.

If your argument is that active and earnest members of the church don’t seem to possess any supernatural means of discerning empirical error, harmful actors, or antisocial behaviour- I agree.

The church’s leadership and doctrine however do not.

Sorry. I haven’t a clue what you’re saying. Maybe you can explain it like I’m five. Just my experience, I’m white and assigned positive tox for major hard drugs, heroin, cocaine, meth, etc .my coworker Patty who speaks Spanish and English had likely 25 sex abuse cases to my two or three. Any Mormon sex abuse cases in Boston which has a heavy Catholic population. And remember Patty worked these cases simultaneously. Me too. Sometimes they reach 50 cases and you work 6am to 8pm 6 days a week. It’s the same type of case different address. Are you an academic as you write like it.

[Marcus]

Ex-wife of former Utah County therapist arrested in connection to ritualistic child sex abuse case
Aug 9, 2023, 6:28 PM | Updated: 6:32 pm

BY MICHAEL HOUCK
KSLTV.com
UTAH COUNTY, Utah — The wife of a former Utah County therapist accused of sexually abusing young patients for decades was arrested on Wednesday.

The Utah County Sheriff’s Office said Roselle “Rosie” Anderson Stevenson, 70, of Provo, was arrested for the first-degree felony of sodomy on a child.

The sheriff’s office said the incident happened in Spring City, Utah, around 1994. The victim was a girl under the age of 13 years old.

“This case is directly related to charges that were previously filed against David Hamblin in September of 2022,” the sheriff’s office release stated.

According to the sheriff’s office, a judge ordered Stevenson to be held without bail.

Ritualistic Child Sex Abuse Investigation

In September 2022, Hamblin was arrested for multiple felony charges of rape and sexual abuse of a child as the Utah County Sheriff’s Office was investigating a ritualistic child sex abuse case.

Detectives with the UCSO Special Victims Unit said the alleged crimes and sex trafficking occurred between 1990 and 2010 in Utah, Juab, and Sanpete Counties.

Their investigation began in April 2021 and “discovered that other victims had previously reported similar forms of ritualistic sexual abuse and trafficking,” according to a previous press release.

In June 2022, former Utah County Attorney David Leavitt asked for an outside review of the investigation after the Utah County Sheriff’s Office named him in the case. Leavitt also asked for Utah County Sheriff Mike Smith to resign.....

https://ksltv.com/575904/ex-wife-of-for ... buse-case/

This just really muddies the waters. I thought the therapist case and now his wife's case were separate from the "ritualistic sexual abuse and trafficking" accusations---which i thought were debunked long ago as part of the "Satanic panic", but the part i bolded seems to be trying to link them, or at least give support once again to the debunked stuff.

[Canadiandude2]

Which thoughts in particular?

Directly quote then state the degree to which you agree/disagree and why.

What is the position you are arguing against? Who here specifically is making that position- relative to the other positions emphasized by themself or others?

If Peterson noted that Mormons are particularly well-represented as subjects of criminal investigations in Utah- then yes I agree that this is likely due to their proportion of the population- though a more detailed and empirical statistical analysis based on cases from the (regional) population would better demonstrate this . Edit: damn I’m wordy.

On the other hand- it is the apologists’ responsibility to be clearer on both the subject and degree to which substantial church membership is supposed to make populations ‘better’, and act as a protective factor against criminality and other defined issues/problems.

Mechanisms for ‘why’ also needs to be explained, as there needs to be a logical, and evidenced explanation for the process so as to compare and contrast alternative explanations that also try to model and explain the phenomenon.

If your argument is that active and earnest members of the church don’t seem to possess any supernatural means of discerning empirical error, harmful actors, or antisocial behaviour- I agree.

The church’s leadership and doctrine however do not.

Sorry. I haven’t a clue what you’re saying. Maybe you can explain it like I’m five. Just my experience, I’m white and assigned positive tox for major hard drugs, heroin, cocaine, meth, etc .my coworker Patty who speaks Spanish and English had likely 25 sex abuse cases to my two or three. Any Mormon sex abuse cases in Boston which has a heavy Catholic population. And remember Patty worked these cases simultaneously. Me too. Sometimes they reach 50 cases and you work 6am to 8pm 6 days a week. It’s the same type of case different address. Are you an academic as you write like it.

Ah. Apparently you were quoting the first post, that referenced Dr. Peterson making a claim.

I was curious about the original source(s) of Peterson talking about Mormon abuse cases.

As for whether I’m an academic- er kinda, but that’s just because I’m doing my graduate studies rn. I’m sure my speech will adapt back to normal after I’m done.

I’m not quite understanding the rest of what you are saying. I’ve never heard of “floodgate” before, and while I have no love of Mormonism I’m a lil curious why the “about us” page is as light as it is on transparency, funding, organization structure, research methodology, etc.

People that commit abuse need to be held accountable of course but without more information- for all I know this is a private organization created by one religion to merely shed light on the failures of others.

[Canadiandude2]

I’m confused. I’m also Canadian and don’t know who’s who of ‘church royalty’ besides the Q15 and maybe a 70 or two.

How closely connected was this relative to church actors in terms of regular acquaintance?

It’s a shame that case against the church in ?Arizona did not prevail in terms of holding Bishops accountable for failing to report. Many Canadian Provinces have made Clergy mandatory reporters. Easier to prosecute clergy who are in the know that way.

[yellowstone123]

Sorry. I haven’t a clue what you’re saying. Maybe you can explain it like I’m five. Just my experience, I’m white and assigned positive tox for major hard drugs, heroin, cocaine, meth, etc .my coworker Patty who speaks Spanish and English had likely 25 sex abuse cases to my two or three. Any Mormon sex abuse cases in Boston which has a heavy Catholic population. And remember Patty worked these cases simultaneously. Me too. Sometimes they reach 50 cases and you work 6am to 8pm 6 days a week. It’s the same type of case different address. Are you an academic as you write like it.

Ah. Apparently you were quoting the first post, that referenced Dr. Peterson making a claim.

I was curious about the original source(s) of Peterson talking about Mormon abuse cases.

As for whether I’m an academic- er kinda, but that’s just because I’m doing my graduate studies rn. I’m sure my speech will adapt back to normal after I’m done.

I’m not quite understanding the rest of what you are saying. I’ve never heard of “floodgate” before, and while I have no love of Mormonism I’m a lil curious why the “about us” page is as light as it is on transparency, funding, organization structure, research methodology, etc.

People that commit abuse need to be held accountable of course but without more information- for all I know this is a private organization created by one religion to merely shed light on the failures of others.

Thank you, it’s becoming clearer for mr,