Wyatt opens up

[Res Ipsa]

Merged as requested — RI

[Tom]

I recognize it is possible that Lighthouse was the only submission to the Mormon History Association for the “best biography” designation for the year. In e-mail conversations with MHA personnel during September 2023, I asked if this were the case, but they indicated it was not their policy to make the number of submissions public.

Certainly there were other biographies published in 2022 that may have been nominated. The bios of D. Michael Quinn, Martha Hughes Cannon, Susa Young Gates, and Andrew Jenson come to mind.

[huckelberry]

So this Wyatt guy, whoever he is, actually thinks that ten sites instead of 13 is significantly less of a trashy act.

And the Tanners objected? boy aren't they always meanies.

[Kishkumen]

So this Wyatt guy, whoever he is, actually thinks that ten sites instead of 13 is significantly less of a trashy act.

And the Tanners objected? boy aren't they always meanies.

I think the difference between 13 and 10 to him is one of factual precision and nothing more.

[Philo Sofee]

This was while I was in the full bloom and heyday of LDS apologetics, and I remember this one well! It was positively embarrassing he would do such an idiotic school-boy bullying in order to just get one up against the Tanners without any mental work whatever at refuting their materials. It was embarrassing and childish, but Kevin Graham got kicked off the private email list, (For Book of Abraham issues) as did Van Hale (for not believing the Book of Mormon was real history but it was scripture), so I didn't dare voice my real thinking, but I certainly did not support it. And yes there was cackling about it, but there was also some serious questions about its ethics. I truly wish I had kept all those old FAIR emails... alas, I didn't. But I can say it was a divisive thing Wyatt did, and it felt like he smeared feces all over FAIR because of it. You work with FAIR you blinkerin MORON, why on earth go this ridiculous route? No one is NOT going to connect FAIR with this kind of measly smearing of the Tanners. And had THEY done something like this to Mormonism?!? You can bet the Mormons would have held a public lynching! There were many who had that sentiment. It was the beginning of my wanting to distance myself from this sophomorish lunacy.
It was a Dan Peterson sort of move.

[Marcus]

So this Wyatt guy, whoever he is, actually thinks that ten sites instead of 13 is significantly less of a trashy act.

And the Tanners objected? boy aren't they always meanies.

Wyatt had a long list of objections, of which the above is one. He defined his objections like this:

...Huggins is correct that the case did drag on for years. In virtually everything else he reports, however, he is materially incorrect. (It does fit the heroic narrative that Huggins exemplifies throughout the book, however.)...

He is nitpicky with his concerns, but he defines them as material issues.

in my opinion, this comes from the mopologetic technique of looking for very minor ways a word could be used differently, and then trumpeting those differences as "evidence" of some sort. I think mopologists forget how very far they have strayed from standard, academically acceptable rational thinking with this nitpicking approach.

Eta: I see Philo has explained the situation very well.

[huckelberry]

So this Wyatt guy, whoever he is, actually thinks that ten sites instead of 13 is significantly less of a trashy act.

And the Tanners objected? boy aren't they always meanies.

I think the difference between 13 and 10 to him is one of factual precision and nothing more.

I suspect you are correct. It may be that the idea that it was a trashy act either way may not have crossed his mind.

[Dr. Shades]

Relatively early in their publishing career, the Tanners asserted that “the leaders of the Mormon Church have always found it very hard to accept criticism.” Huggins never acknowledges that the Tanners had the same difficulty when anyone criticized them. I know, from personal experience, that the same can be said about Sandra and her actions relative to the lawsuit.

Huh?? In Wyatt’s mind, cyber squatting and click-theft counts as “criticism?”

This guy can’t POSSIBLY be human. He can only be a very poorly imaged A.I. that tries, and fails, to superficially mimic a human thought process.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Allen Wyatt has always been a few clowns short of a circus. The cheese slid off his cracker a long time ago.

[Philo Sofee]

Relatively early in their publishing career, the Tanners asserted that “the leaders of the Mormon Church have always found it very hard to accept criticism.” Huggins never acknowledges that the Tanners had the same difficulty when anyone criticized them. I know, from personal experience, that the same can be said about Sandra and her actions relative to the lawsuit.

Huh?? In Wyatt’s mind, cyber squatting and click-theft counts as “criticism?”

This guy can’t POSSIBLY be human. He can only be a very poorly imaged A.I. that tries, and fails, to superficially mimic a human thought process.