Not believing in a god is not necessarily the same thing as not being religious. Advocating for an ideology with the claim that the ideology in question will lead to positive transformation of society, etc., smacks of religiosity to me. I also don’t think that there is a single definition of atheism that fits everyone. “Burden of proof resides with a positive claim” is a methodological ground rule, not an ideology.Rivendale wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:45 pmI agree that argumentative appraches claiming there is no god ( Aron Ra an exmormon comes to mind) has adopted an ideology similiar to a religion. However atheism (as I understand it)is just the rejection of the evidence presented. It dosen't make the positive claim. I am sure the phrase the "burden of proof resides with the positive claim" has been said here often. For me as I age it seems redundant. But it can make for interesting discussions.
Those are my thoughts as I read your words.