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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:52 pm
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Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:44 pm
Apologies. I also misread your post.
No apology necessary, IWMP. I was not upset by your post at all. Rosebud, like any of us, is entitled to her feelings.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:24 am
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Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:06 am
The comments under the post you brought over don't support that separation.
I don’t completely agree with everyone’s conclusions. In fact, the lumping of JD in with the other two makes me skeptical, not of the predation of the two (Kimball and Bramer), however.

Note that Rosebud shows up in Josh Weed’s comments, so, of course Marcus is right that some comments clearly do not support the distinction I am making. Indeed, it is Rosebud who drags JD into the discussion.
I disagree. I read Rosebud's posts there but I am not inclined to give them weight, due to her issues here.

I am talking about the multiple other people who expressed their opinion re Dehlin, and several who gave lengthy, detailed information about their personal experiences with Dehlin. These had nothing to do with Rosebud. They were almost all uniformly negative about Dehlin, with a very few expressing a vaguely neutral stance.
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I hope Brad Kramer lives out his remaining days with halitosis, and really itchy hemorrhoids.
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:29 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:24 am
I don’t completely agree with everyone’s conclusions. In fact, the lumping of John Dehlin in with the other two makes me skeptical, not of the predation of the two (Kimball and Bramer), however.

Note that Rosebud shows up in Josh Weed’s comments, so, of course Marcus is right that some comments clearly do not support the distinction I am making. Indeed, it is Rosebud who drags John Dehlin into the discussion.
I disagree. I read Rosebud's posts there but I am not inclined to give them weight, due to her issues here.

I am talking about the multiple other people who expressed their opinion re Dehlin, and several who gave lengthy, detailed information about their personal experiences with Dehlin. These had nothing to do with Rosebud. They were almost all uniformly negative about Dehlin, with a very few expressing a vaguely neutral stance.
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:29 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:24 am
I don’t completely agree with everyone’s conclusions. In fact, the lumping of John Dehlin in with the other two makes me skeptical, not of the predation of the two (Kimball and Bramer), however.

Note that Rosebud shows up in Josh Weed’s comments, so, of course Marcus is right that some comments clearly do not support the distinction I am making. Indeed, it is Rosebud who drags John Dehlin into the discussion.
I disagree. I read Rosebud's posts there but I am not inclined to give them weight, due to her issues here.

I am talking about the multiple other people who expressed their opinion re Dehlin, and several who gave lengthy, detailed information about their personal experiences with Dehlin. These had nothing to do with Rosebud. They were almost all uniformly negative about Dehlin, with a very few expressing a vaguely neutral stance.
I can’t imagine it’s a lot of fun working for a boss who thinks he’s constantly under attack from both the LDS church and exmo critics.
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:29 pm
I disagree. I read Rosebud's posts there but I am not inclined to give them weight, due to her issues here.

I am talking about the multiple other people who expressed their opinion re Dehlin, and several who gave lengthy, detailed information about their personal experiences with Dehlin. These had nothing to do with Rosebud. They were almost all uniformly negative about Dehlin, with a very few expressing a vaguely neutral stance.
I don’t care that multiple people have negative opinions of Dehlin. Or that a person of a certain ideological stance attracts comments along the same lines in her threads. This thread is about the difference between actual sexual predators and those who are erroneously lumped in with them for ideological reasons or because of bogus accusations.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:15 pm
Marcus wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 8:29 pm
I disagree. I read Rosebud's posts there but I am not inclined to give them weight, due to her issues here.

I am talking about the multiple other people who expressed their opinion re Dehlin, and several who gave lengthy, detailed information about their personal experiences with Dehlin. These had nothing to do with Rosebud. They were almost all uniformly negative about Dehlin, with a very few expressing a vaguely neutral stance.
I don’t care that multiple people have negative opinions of Dehlin. Or that a person of a certain ideological stance attracts comments along the same lines in her threads. This thread is about the difference between actual sexual predators and those who are erroneously lumped in with them for ideological reasons or because of bogus accusations.
Huh? I assumed Marcus was implying that other women were suggesting more than a negative opinion. As in more women were accusing him of sexual harassment but with more evidence. I haven't seen such accusations but I don't spend much time thinking about it.
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Just checked the time and it is 22.22 again lol. Off-topic but had to share.
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Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:22 pm
Huh? I assumed Marcus was implying that other women were suggesting more than a negative opinion. As in more women were accusing him of sexual harassment but with more evidence. I haven't seen such accusations but I don't spend much time thinking about it.
No, that is not what I was implying. Please don't read more into it than exactly what I said, which is this:
I am talking about the multiple other people who expressed their opinion re Dehlin, and several who gave lengthy, detailed information about their personal experiences with Dehlin. These had nothing to do with Rosebud. They were almost all uniformly negative about Dehlin, with a very few expressing a vaguely neutral stance.
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:30 pm
No, that is not what I was implying. Please don't read more into it than exactly what I said, which is this:
I am talking about the multiple other people who expressed their opinion re Dehlin, and several who gave lengthy, detailed information about their personal experiences with Dehlin. These had nothing to do with Rosebud. They were almost all uniformly negative about Dehlin, with a very few expressing a vaguely neutral stance.
And there are plenty of people who unfortunately think the sun shines out of his backside. Where does all this anecdotal evidence leave us?

The people who haven't signed NDAs and have stuck their heads above the parapet have unfortunately been found to be quite unreliable with some of their claims. And a judge indicates that the more litigious one has been destroying evidence and also seems to have contempt for the law. Feels a bit lynchy.

I shall not be encouraging my kids to work at Open Stories Foundation. But not sure he can be cancelled just yet.
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