Gems from Doctrines of Salvation?

[Lem]

Tom,

Good Lord, you just reignited my PTMD. Straight out of the 70’s and 80’s Mormonism I was raised in.

- Doc

would that be Post Traumatic Mormon Disorder? If so, you are not alone.

[Philo Sofee]

Tom
I should note that Dennis Horne has commenced a four-month series on "Refuting and Correcting BYU's False Doctrine on the Origin of Man." I'm not making this up. Will Mr. Horne actually publish 55 posts on this topic? Will the series be cross-posted to Sic et Non? Or to Interpreter?

I noticed something fascinating on Horne's page Here is a quote - "I have thought it prudent, in this lengthy blog series, to place upfront a selection of representative quotations from prophets, seers, and revelators that refute evolution providing for the origin of man."

I sincerely don't think Horne understands what refutation means. None of the statements refute anything. There is no evidence presented against evolution, there are just diatribes about how it contradicts "doctrine" and how the brethren do not like evolution. There is disagreement, but that is certainly not what a refutation means. Does Horne even know what a refutation is?! What a waste of time. Yes all the prophets are all in lock step agreement, as if that is all it takes to get to something called truth - LOL! What an amateur Horne is. What a rookie.

[Doctor Scratch]

I should note that Dennis Horne has commenced a four-month series on "Refuting and Correcting BYU's False Doctrine on the Origin of Man." I'm not making this up. Will Mr. Horne actually publish 55 posts on this topic? Will the series be cross-posted to Sic et Non? Or to Interpreter?

One post includes some wisdom from Joseph Fielding Smith:

ADAM NOT END PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION. Adam was placed here, not a wild, half-civilized savage, but a perfectly-developed man, with wonderful intelligence, for he helped to create this earth. He was chosen in pre-existence to be the first man upon the earth and the father of the human race, and he will preside over his posterity forever.

Now, the Lord did not choose a being that had just developed from the lower forms of life, to be a prince, an archangel, to preside over the human race forever! Adam, as Michael, was one of the greatest intelligences in the spirit world and he stands next to Jesus Christ. When he came upon the earth, the Lord gave him a perfect form of government.

It's always fascinating when this sort of thing surfaces. It's like the facade of Internet Mormonism has a crack in it, and we're getting to see the things that the Mopologists have worked so hard to conceal. Yes: what will happen with Dennis Horne? Will he be ostracized?

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In the whacky department, this has been a favorite of mine from Doctrines of Salvation--

We are living in the dispensation of the fullness of times into which all things are to be gathered, and all things are to be restored since the beginning. Even this earth is to be restored to the condition which prevailed before Adam's transgression. Now in the nature of things, the blood sacrifice will have to be restored, or all things which were decreed by the Lord would not be restored. It will be necessary, therefore, for the sons of Levi, who offered the blood sacrifices anciently in Israel, to offer such a sacrifice again to round out and complete this ordinance in this dispensation. Sacrifice by the shedding of blood was instituted in the days of Adam and of necessity will have to be restored.
The sacrifice of animals will be done to complete the restoration when the temple spoken of is built; at the beginning of the millennium or in the restoration, blood sacrifices will be performed long enough to complete the fulness of the restoration in this dispensation. Afterwards sacrifice will be of some other character.

Page 511 of Doctrines of Salvation, "RESTORATION OF BLOOD SACRIFICES."

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[Philo Sofee]

In the whacky department, this has been a favorite of mine from Doctrines of Salvation--

We are living in the dispensation of the fullness of times into which all things are to be gathered, and all things are to be restored since the beginning. Even this earth is to be restored to the condition which prevailed before Adam's transgression. Now in the nature of things, the blood sacrifice will have to be restored, or all things which were decreed by the Lord would not be restored. It will be necessary, therefore, for the sons of Levi, who offered the blood sacrifices anciently in Israel, to offer such a sacrifice again to round out and complete this ordinance in this dispensation. Sacrifice by the shedding of blood was instituted in the days of Adam and of necessity will have to be restored.
The sacrifice of animals will be done to complete the restoration when the temple spoken of is built; at the beginning of the millennium or in the restoration, blood sacrifices will be performed long enough to complete the fulness of the restoration in this dispensation. Afterwards sacrifice will be of some other character.

Page 511 of Doctrines of Salvation, "RESTORATION OF BLOOD SACRIFICES."

If these idiots were to actually get the restoration of ALL things right, they would RE-institute (that's right, you are seeing this correctly, RE-institute - that is get it back up and running) the actual sacred marriage of man and woman in imitation of the Divine marriage of God and His Shekhinah in the HOLY OF HOLIES in the temple as was done in ancient Israel, and depicted by the sexually embracing cherubim. Raphael Patai and LDS scholar Eugene Seaich have demonstrated with evidence from ancient texts that in the temple, the consummation of the "Holy Endowment" (to put Mormon spin on it) was the sexual act between a man and woman - men and their wives, IN the Holy of Holies as the ultimate AT-ONE-MENT of the male and female, the human and divine.

Mormonism, were it to actually restore everything the original Gospel had, would get magnificent membership numbers were they to actually do it right, would they not?! They have left out the best part, the part that actually makes a difference in their putative Gospel, the POWER to unite all things - restore all things.

Instead they come up with these blood sacrifices, ENTIRELY misunderstanding that Jesus' sacrifice did away with actual blood sacrifices. What an idiot Fielding Smith was.