KEP Dictation Argument: The Evidence

[_wenglund]

Lest anyone think that there isn't a historical precidence where in the case of a substitution cipher some of the characters of a ciphertext closely resemble the plaintext, here is the Knights Templar Cipher (or Furthark or Runic Cipher):



Note the similarities between the ciphertext characters and the plaintext B, C, H, I, M, R, S, and T.

Thanks, -Wade Engtund-

[_Darth J]

Hello, Wade,

I've missed your passive-aggressive cheer-leading and dropping hints to create the illusion of having something to say.

I must say that you have done an excellent job in demonstrating that William Schryver thinks that Joseph Smith and his companions were creating a cipher.

How's it coming with finding that evidence that Joseph Smith thought that he and his companions were creating a cipher?

Love, DJ

P.S. I'll just take it as a given that neither you nor your hero have either the intention or the ability to answer the question, "Even if you're right, so what?" I've been asking that question since May, and the fact that it is consistently ignored really tells me everything I need to know about your glorious unicorn hunt.

[_Paul Osborne]

For Christ's sake, Wade, I think you're a lost cause. You must have dropped more acid then me and William put together! Goddamn you're weird!

Jesus! Let me out of here. God!

Paul O

[_wenglund]

"Even if you're right, so what?"

All that may change is the way some people have mistakenly viewed the KEP, and to the extent that their mistaken view has negatively impacted their faith in the restored gospel, maybe their viewing the KEP correctly will remove a perceived stumbling block to their possibly returning to and growing in faith.

Beyond that, it may simply add a new dimension of understand about the lives of saints in Joseph's day.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

For Christ's sake, Wade, I think you're a lost cause. You must have dropped more acid then me and William put together! Goddamn you're weird!

Jesus! Let me out of here. God! Paul O

I just wanted you to know that the astute correlation you drew between the Egyptian Counting document and the GAEL has been useful in testing Will's cipher theory. Nice job!

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Paul Osborne]

I just wanted you to know that the astute correlation you drew between the Egyptian Counting document and the GAEL has been useful in testing Will's cipher theory. Nice job!

Laugh it up fuzzball. You won't get anymore help from me. Besides, 500 years from now the Mormon church will be history.

Paul O

[_Darth J]

"Even if you're right, so what?"

All that may change is the way some people have mistakenly viewed the KEP, and to the extent that their mistaken view has negatively impacted their faith in the restored gospel, maybe their viewing the KEP correctly will remove a perceived stumbling block to their possibly returning to and growing in faith.

Beyond that, it may simply add a new dimension of understand about the lives of saints in Joseph's day.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wade, I want you to tell me the name of ONE PERSON who does not believe that Thomas Spencer Monson is a prophet because of some theory about the Kirtland Egyptian Papers.

Or would that distract from your meaningless busy work over an obscure piece of Mormon trivia that you can pretend will vindicate the faithful?

EDIT: So anyway, Wade, about that evidence that Joseph Smith or any of his contemporaries thought they were creating a cipher.........

[_Darth J]

Were that not enough, you will need to explain the important matter regarding the KEP "sounds", which don't seem to be Egyptian, but more Latin or Arimaic. Good luck with that.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

I'll take "Things Joseph Smith Made Up" for $100, Alex.

But I'm sure this is all related to the cipher project, just in case they needed to speak the Book of Abraham in secret code.

[_wenglund]

I think it only right to mention that in the portion of the write-up of my research on ciphers that I attached to the thread at MADB, there were several findings that I attributed to Kevin and to Chris. I just wanted them to know that I appreciate some of the work that they have done on the KEP, even if I interpret their findings as pointing to a different conclusion than their's.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

You won't get anymore help from me.

That is unfortunate. I thought you had a lot to offer. But, I can respect your decision.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-