EAllusion wrote:Huh. That is a quote of Jersey Girl's email comes from a lengthy discussion in the moderator forum where two mods were going to bat for her. She clearly was kept up to date on contents found therein. My comments informing it and responding to it, since it addresses me at length, are found there in the flow of conversation. Unfortunately, that is locked away.
If Jersey Girl is arguing that she didn't threaten to sue anyone and resting of the technicality that she merely hoped to threaten to provoke someone else into initiating a legal fight because "liability is a bitch and so am I" that's not much of a distinction to be hanging her hat on.
Yes, she was. I kept her up to date. Shades knew I did. I did not hide thee fact that I did. If you have a problem with it, take it up with me.
EAllusion wrote:There was no codified rule against making legal threats or submitting passive-aggressive inquiries to the webhost that threaten the board at the time of Jersey Girl's banning. There was, however, precedent in that Joseph was banned for highly similar behavior. He, nor Darrick, violated any rule that has banning as a consequence either. Jersey Girl was aware of this precedent and the similarity between her and Joseph's behavior, for what it is worth. Take that what you will. There is a rule against it now.
This isn't about Jersey Girl's banning. Jersey Girl doesn't give a damn that she is banned. This is about her being lied about, and her not being able to respond for herself. That is what we are addressing here.
EA wrote:Jersey Girl seems to think that Darrick was engaged in criminal cyberstalking on this board, but, uh, no he wasn't.
Uh, actually, he was coming pretty damned close. He also had a prior history of cyberstalking other individuals on other boards. And this was something that Shades refused to take into consideration when allowing Darrick to post on MDB in the first place, even though he was warned by multiple individuals who he respected.
liz3564 wrote:This isn't about Jersey Girl's banning. Jersey Girl doesn't give a damn that she is banned. This is about her being lied about, and her not being able to respond for herself. That is what we are addressing here.
Hold on. She promised to initiate a legal fight that would implicate the board admin. Her bluster about liability makes that clear. I think it's going way over the top to scream "liar!" when she wants to argue that she wasn't planning on suing herself, but rather merely was threatening to take action that would provoke someone else into suing. One, that would be an understandable reading of her comments and two, it's not exactly a significant distinction in context of what happened. Perhaps it would be better for her to assert she's being misread and ask comments about the incident to be reworded that she threatened to "initiate a legal fight" against us rather than "sue."
liz3564 wrote:Uh, actually, he was coming pretty damned close.
He didn't. He displayed behavior that when taken into the context of his history might realistically tip off in that direction; hence his banning, but he was still on the creepy jerk side of the line as far as what happened on this board is concerned. Let's not over-exaggerate his behavior into criminality now.
liz3564 wrote:This isn't about Jersey Girl's banning. Jersey Girl doesn't give a damn that she is banned. This is about her being lied about, and her not being able to respond for herself. That is what we are addressing here.
Hold on. She promised to initiate a legal fight that would implicate the board admin. Her bluster about liability makes that clear. I think it's going way over the top to scream "liar!" when she wants to argue that she wasn't planning on suing herself, but rather merely was threatening to take action that would provoke someone else into suing. One, that would be an understandable reading of her comments and two, it's not exactly a significant distinction in context of what happened.
Where in the hell are you getting that? Where did she say anything about provoking someone else to sue, and how is that an understandable reading of her comments?
Take a look at her actions which coupled with her statements. Take a look at what she did. She filed an inquiry with the web host. And the content of the inquiry was not something that involved lawsuit at all. Her purpose in all of this was singular...to get Darrick off the board. If you can't understand that, then you have worse reading comprehension problems than I thought.
I'm afraid that Jersey Girl's appeals have no impact and will not reverse this case. She is more foolish than I originally thought.
No offense to you Liz for sticking up for your friend but I find her defense to be rediculous. I can hardly even read it with an open mind it sucks so much. I can hardly even respond. Her actions were blatant and her punishment is just. She's just a dumb girl. Sorry.
liz3564 wrote:Uh, actually, he was coming pretty damned close.
He didn't. He displayed behavior that when taken into the context of his history might realistically tip off in that direction; hence his banning, but he was still on the creepy jerk side of the line as far as what happened on this board is concerned. Let's not over-exaggerate his behavior into criminality now.
This is where the whole major split between me, Harmony, Jersey Girl, and you and Shades differ. Darrick's previous history has EVERYTHING to do with his behavior on our board being alarming. And I didn't say that his behavior was criminal, but it was close. You even admit that.
I think threatening the Web Host for perceived behavior by this board is tantamount to messing with this board by proxy. It's a ridiculous argument to say otherwise. Jersey Girl was picking a fight with the Zen Master, Dr. Shades, and she lost. That's that.
Go find another board to mess with, sister.
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