No gay scout leaders but lots of molested boys

[_LittleNipper]

There is nothing wrong with guys liking to pal with other guys. However, looking at those guys as sex objects ruins the quality of relationship and destroys the desire to be a leader, husband, father, friend.

You seem to be asserting that gay men (I assume you also mean gay women) cannot be good leaders; parents; spouses; and friends because of their sexual orientation. I think that's hogwash. You only have to pick up the newspaper on any given day to see heterosexual parents abusing their children or spouses. I have found that gay non Mormon friends have tended to be far more genuine; more caring; more thoughtful and considerate; more loyal; less judgemental etc than heterosexual Mormons. That's either because of their sexuality or their religious persuasion, you choose...

A gay man cannot be a fair gender model. A man cannot be a husband unless he marries a woman. Unless a man decides to marry a woman or commits fornication with one, he will not father children. The true homosexual lifestyle precludes that the man would even look at a woman ---- let alone have sex with one. Newspapers rarely tell the entire story. And liberal rags are not prone to print things which might cast things they feel supportive about in a bad light.

[_Drifting]

You seem to be asserting that gay men (I assume you also mean gay women) cannot be good leaders; parents; spouses; and friends because of their sexual orientation. I think that's hogwash. You only have to pick up the newspaper on any given day to see heterosexual parents abusing their children or spouses. I have found that gay non Mormon friends have tended to be far more genuine; more caring; more thoughtful and considerate; more loyal; less judgemental etc than heterosexual Mormons. That's either because of their sexuality or their religious persuasion, you choose...

A gay man cannot be a fair gender model. A man cannot be a husband unless he marries a woman. Unless a man decides to marry a woman or commits fornication with one, he will not father children. The true homosexual lifestyle precludes that the man would even look at a woman ---- let alone have sex with one. Newspapers rarely tell the entire story. And liberal rags are not prone to print things which might cast things they feel supportive about in a bad light.

I know you feel justified by God in believing the things you do, but in my humble opinion you are a complete bigot.

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance"

[_LittleNipper]

A gay man cannot be a fair gender model. A man cannot be a husband unless he marries a woman. Unless a man decides to marry a woman or commits fornication with one, he will not father children. The true homosexual lifestyle precludes that the man would even look at a woman ---- let alone have sex with one. Newspapers rarely tell the entire story. And liberal rags are not prone to print things which might cast things they feel supportive about in a bad light.

I know you feel justified by God in believing the things you do, but in my humble opinion you are a complete bigot.

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance"

Explain how one demonstrates hatred? What is hate?
Explain how one demonstrates intolerance?
Who hates whom and who is intolerant of what exactly?
Does a bigot listen to logic and reason outside that of his own design, or does he stick to his own views, supported by his own feelings, concerning things he wishes to be accepted regardless?
My question is, am I really the bigot or are you? Think about it. Does bigotry only travel in one direction?
I base my views primarily on what the Bible teaches. I didn't write the Bible. There is much in the Bible that doesn't make me feel good about choices I've made. Those choices I've discovered were wrong, after careful reflection upon the Word. Do bigots learn from their mistakes or do they live by and in them?

[_Shulem]

I feel homosexuals have qualities that are very special; however, the fact of their sexual behavior choices, underminds/overshadows these qualities --- much like drugs undermind one's talents.

You know what? Little wonder Jesus was killed and so also many who followed him. They probably said a lot of stupid things just like you do. Drinking blood and eating human flesh coupled with gays being drug addicts.

Jesus Holy Christ!

Paul O

[_LittleNipper]

I feel homosexuals have qualities that are very special; however, the fact of their sexual behavior choices, underminds/overshadows these qualities --- much like drugs undermind one's talents.

You know what? Little wonder Jesus was killed and so also many who followed him. They probably said a lot of stupid things just like you do. Drinking blood and eating human flesh coupled with gays being drug addicts.

Paul O

Jesus gave up his life for you and me ----- no one took it from him.

[_Shulem]

Jesus gave up his life for you and me ----- no one took it from him.

BS. He was tried by the Romans and executed for breaking the law. Jesus was a criminal and a threat to law and order. Even the Jews were scared of him and turned on him.

Gave up his life? My ass. He was put to death and there wasn't a damn thing he could do to stop it.

Gave his life for me? Heaveny Father is a bloodthirsty murderous bastard killing animals and his own children for his own sick pleasure. The god of the Bible is evil. Dark Age religion and people like you still follow that garbage of murder and blood for forgiveness of sins. How sick!

Paul O

[_Drifting]

I base my views primarily on what the Bible teaches. I didn't write the Bible. There is much in the Bible that doesn't make me feel good about choices I've made. Those choices I've discovered were wrong, after careful reflection upon the Word. Do bigots learn from their mistakes or do they live by and in them?

When I was younger I used to believe that blacks had been bad and gays were sinners. I no longer hold those views because I have learned that to hold them would be bigoted and wrong.

Where does the Bible explain God's view on gay people?

[_Elphaba]

Jesus gave up his life for you and me ----- no one took it from him.

How did Jesus give up his life? Given he was also a god who understood the Plan of Salvation, he knew he would be back within three days with a body and soul that would be much improved from his mortal version, indestructible for eternity.

To actually "give up" something, you must lose that thing permanently. Jesus "gave up" nothing.

[_LittleNipper]

Jesus gave up his life for you and me ----- no one took it from him.

How did Jesus give up his life? Given he was also a god who understood the Plan of Salvation, he knew he would be back within three days with a body and soul that would be much improved from his mortal version, indestructible for eternity.

To actually "give up" something, you must lose that thing permanently. Jesus "gave up" nothing.

Christ choose to suffer. Christ choose to be humiliated. Christ choose to become sin. That is a lot for a perfect being. He could have just destroyed everything and start over. But He showed that He also loved the world and wanted what was best and perfect for it.

[_Drifting]

Christ choose to suffer. Christ choose to be humiliated. Christ choose to become sin. That is a lot for a perfect being. He could have just destroyed everything and start over. But He showed that He also loved the world and wanted what was best and perfect for it.

No he didn't.
He was arrested after being grassed up by one of his merry men.
And if He was a perfect being why did the Church He set up fail miserably? Thrice - oncinsight Adam, once in the Middle East and once in the America's. He's 3 - 0 down and His fourth attempt ain't going so well...

And couldn't destroy the world and start over. His Dad had previously told Noah He wouldn't let that happen again.