why me wrote:I also said that the Nephites did not have white skin since they came from the middle east.
Did you forget about Nephi prophesying of Columbus and Europeans coming? Nephi said the Europeans were white "like unto my people".
1 Nephi 13:15 And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain.
21 And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
Drifting has already referred to this particular passage. Did you miss it?
"It's a little like the Confederate Constitution guaranteeing the freedom to own slaves. Irony doesn't exist for bigots or fanatics." Maksutov
21 And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
Drifting has already referred to this particular passage. Did you miss it?
He didn't so much 'miss it' as 'walk by on the other side of the road avoiding eye contact' with it.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
21 And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
Drifting has already referred to this particular passage. Did you miss it?
Have a nice read, especially page 9-10. Notice how often white and black are mentioned in the scriptures.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
21 And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
Drifting has already referred to this particular passage. Did you miss it?
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I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Now why don't you post for us some of the highlights from your unofficial sources that you think are relevant to 'Racism in the Book of Mormon'.
You won't though, will you...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Now why don't you post for us some of the highlights from your unofficial sources that you think are relevant to 'Racism in the Book of Mormon'.
You won't though, will you...
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:http://www.blacklds.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/How-to-reach-African-Americans.pdf
Have a nice read, especially page 9-10.
I read this on page 9 "If one were to study the Old and New Testament, Book of Mormon and Doctrine & Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price, they would understand that the words “black” and “white” were not used in reference to skin color in either of these sacred works."
The FAIR blacklds.org tell African Americans these untruths. Meanwhile, racist toys are being sold to Mormons about Native Americans. There is a before and after, white and dark skin.
Here Brant argues that skin in fact does not equal skin and blackness does not equal blackness.
Hopefully you spotted the passage that Tapirrider referred to:
1 Nephi 13:15 And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain.
In terms of Brant's logic, that would mean that 'white' didn't mean 'white' and 'fair' didn't mean 'fair' and 'beautiful' didn't mean 'beautiful'.
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"It's a little like the Confederate Constitution guaranteeing the freedom to own slaves. Irony doesn't exist for bigots or fanatics." Maksutov
Notice how often white and black are mentioned in the scriptures.
