The Word of Wisdom was never Doctrine

[_Bazooka]

Wait...the Church is offering sport hunting?
What does the doctrine say about unnecessary animal slaughter?

Do you really want me to go into the reasons behind this?

I can. I think it is fairly obvious. There is plenty of evidence behind the reasons.

Let me know if you are unaware of the arguments behind them.

-7up

I really want you to go into the reasons behind "but how does an expansive and growing meat production operation sit comfortably alongside the official counsel to eat meat sparingly?"

[_seven7up]

Wait...the Church is offering sport hunting?
What does the doctrine say about unnecessary animal slaughter?

For starters, is there an assumption being made (likely a false one) that they are not using the animals for food.

Do you really want me to go into the reasons behind (hunting)?

I can. I think it is fairly obvious. There is plenty of evidence behind the reasons. Let me know if you are unaware of the arguments behind them.

I really want you to go into the reasons behind "but how does an expansive and growing meat production operation sit comfortably alongside the official counsel to eat meat sparingly?"

The growth of a meat production operation does not indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more and more meat. Growing populations or the loss of another producer can account for this.

I thought you all would be tired of these petty accusations on this subject by now.

I thought wrong. I now predict that you all will continue to seek endlessly for the motes in the eyes of Mormons, while ignoring the beams in your own eyes.

-7up

[_Bazooka]

The growth of a meat production operation does not indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more and more meat. Growing populations or the loss of another producer can account for this.

In the developing countries, where almost all world population increases take place, consumption of meat has been growing at 5-6 percent p.a.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/y4252e/y4252e05b.htm

How does 5-6% growth in consumption compare with the growth rate of human population numbers?

Globally, the growth rate of the human population has been declining since peaking in 1962 and 1963 at 2.20% per annum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population ... rowth_rate

So actually, the growth of a meat production DOES indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more meat.

[_seven7up]

The growth of a meat production operation does not indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more and more meat. Growing populations or the loss of another producer can account for this.

In the developing countries, where almost all world population increases take place,

What do "developing countries" have to do with a single meat provider in the U.S.?

So actually, the growth of a meat production DOES indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more meat.

Repeat that statement again, .... think about it, then try saying it again with a straight face. Your attempt at manipulating statistics won't impress me, or any other educated individual.

This conversation started with you bringing up a single individual provider of meat in the U.S., which was expanding. Then you bring up "developing countries" and their population growth and meat consumption. A poor country is likely not to have a high meat consumption, but when it develops, the meat consumption is likely to increase. What does that have to do with the previous comments?

-7up

[_Bazooka]

This conversation started with you bringing up a single individual provider of meat in the U.S., which was expanding.

The point being that the single individual provider of meat in the US which is expanding is advocating against increasing meat consumption.
In fact it is advocating a reduced meat intake.
That's not an organisation that is putting its money where its mouth is.

[_seven7up]

This conversation started with you bringing up a single individual provider of meat in the U.S., which was expanding.

The point being that the single individual provider of meat in the US which is expanding is advocating against increasing meat consumption.
In fact it is advocating a reduced meat intake.
That's not an organisation that is putting its money where its mouth is.

And I repeat: "The growth of a meat production operation does not indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more and more meat. Growing populations or the loss of another producer can account for this."

-7up

[_Bazooka]

This conversation started with you bringing up a single individual provider of meat in the U.S., which was expanding.

The point being that the single individual provider of meat in the US which is expanding is advocating against increasing meat consumption.
In fact it is advocating a reduced meat intake.
That's not an organisation that is putting its money where its mouth is.

And I repeat: "The growth of a meat production operation does not indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more and more meat. Growing populations or the loss of another producer can account for this."

-7up

They could, but they don't....

[_seven7up]

And I repeat: "The growth of a meat production operation does not indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more and more meat. Growing populations or the loss of another producer can account for this."

They could, but they don't....

My personal meat consumption did not increase as a result of this particular meat production operation.

Did your meat consumption increase as a result of this? Are you now eating 5 burgers a week instead of 2 or 3?

-7up

[_Bazooka]

And I repeat: "The growth of a meat production operation does not indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more and more meat. Growing populations or the loss of another producer can account for this."

They could, but they don't....

My personal meat consumption did not increase as a result of this particular meat production operation.

From what you've said previously about your ward barbecues etc I think it would be hard for you to increase it without sending some species extinct....[/quote]

Did your meat consumption increase as a result of this? Are you now eating 5 burgers a week instead of 2 or 3?

-7up

I've decided to go along with the word of wisdom and eat meat sparingly, in times of winter, cold or famine.
If you wish to ignore God's counsel...well...on your own hips be it.

[_seven7up]

And I repeat: "The growth of a meat production operation does not indicate that each individual in the market is eating more and more and more meat. Did your meat consumption increase as a result of this? Are you now eating 5 burgers a week instead of 2 or 3?

I've decided to go along with the word of wisdom and eat meat sparingly, in times of winter, cold or famine.

So, now you agree with my point in bold above. Thank you for suddenly becoming so reasonable.

-7up