Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:03 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:51 pm
Which statement isn’t true?

We can’t move on until we’ve dealt with this.
Says who? I do not believe that you have been chosen to decide what questions are to be tackled in any certain order. As it is, it is readily apparent you have been avoiding mine. Doing so would potentially blow your concerns out of the water.

I have already commented on and answered your inquiries as to how we have Bible in the Book of Mormon. You have failed to answer my questions dealing with stylometry, Chiasmus, complexity, etc.

We can’t move on until you are willing to have a two way conversation rather than controlling the narrative by being intentionally obtuse.

Regards,
MG
Now you’re avoiding picking a statement. People can speculate as to why.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:04 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:03 pm


Says who? I do not believe that you have been chosen to decide what questions are to be tackled in any certain order. As it is, it is readily apparent you have been avoiding mine. Doing so would potentially blow your concerns out of the water.

I have already commented on and answered your inquiries as to how we have Bible in the Book of Mormon. You have failed to answer my questions dealing with stylometry, Chiasmus, complexity, etc.

We can’t move on until you are willing to have a two way conversation rather than controlling the narrative by being intentionally obtuse.

Regards,
MG
Now you’re avoiding picking a statement. People can speculate as to why.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true?
1. The plates were created/compiled during that time frame. Of course we are also considering the time frame in which the Jaradite record was kept/compiled. The Book of Mormon as we have it was transmuted/translated…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transmute

…in the nineteenth century although it’s possible that it may have been edited and massaged previous to that. We just don’t know for sure. The fact that we find Bible in the Book of Mormon says that the text was a product of something other than transmission directly from the plates.

2. There are connections with 17th century language and grammar.

Now, PLEASE (for the fifth or sixth time) answer my questions.

If you fail to do so I will have to conclude that you are not an honest participant and seeker for truth.

Regards,
MG
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, but needs batteries – you probably have the wrong abstraction.
https://lostechies.com/derickbailey/200 ... -pictures/

To explicate the obvious: needing batteries disqualifies an object from being a duck, no matter what the object looks like, quacks like, or otherwise behaves like.

Similarly in other fields.

And, no, this reply does not mean that I am engaging with MG in any way,
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:23 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:04 pm
Now you’re avoiding picking a statement. People can speculate as to why.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true?
1. The plates were created/compiled during that time frame. Of course we are also considering the time frame in which the Jaradite record was kept/compiled. The Book of Mormon as we have it was transmuted/translated…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transmute

…in the nineteenth century although it’s possible that it may have been edited and massaged previous to that. We just don’t know for sure. The fact that we find Bible in the Book of Mormon says that the text was a product of something other than transmission directly from the plates.

2. There are connections with 17th century language and grammar.

Now, PLEASE (for the fifth or sixth time) answer my questions.

If you fail to do so I will have to conclude that you are not an honest participant and seeker for truth.

Regards,
MG
I don’t understand what it is you’re trying to say.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:44 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:23 pm


1. The plates were created/compiled during that time frame. Of course we are also considering the time frame in which the Jaradite record was kept/compiled. The Book of Mormon as we have it was transmuted/translated…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transmute

…in the nineteenth century although it’s possible that it may have been edited and massaged previous to that. We just don’t know for sure. The fact that we find Bible in the Book of Mormon says that the text was a product of something other than transmission directly from the plates.

2. There are connections with 17th century language and grammar.

Now, PLEASE (for the fifth or sixth time) answer my questions.

If you fail to do so I will have to conclude that you are not an honest participant and seeker for truth.

Regards,
MG
I don’t understand what it is you’re trying to say.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true?
OK.We’re done. You’re being obtuse. And that’s giving you the benefit of a doubt. It could be something else (left unsaid).

Sheesh. You are tiresome.

Regards,
MG
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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malkie wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:32 pm
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, but needs batteries – you probably have the wrong abstraction.
https://lostechies.com/derickbailey/200 ... -pictures/

To explicate the obvious: needing batteries disqualifies an object from being a duck, no matter what the object looks like, quacks like, or otherwise behaves like.

Similarly in other fields.

And, no, this reply does not mean that I am engaging with MG in any way,
No skin off my back dude. :D

I wouldn’t expect, nowadays, that you would actually engage in a substantive way. Those days are gone.

I do hope things are going well for you though and that life is treating you well.

Regards,
MG
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:48 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:44 pm
I don’t understand what it is you’re trying to say.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true?
OK.We’re done. You’re being obtuse. And that’s giving you the benefit of a doubt. It could be something else.

Sheesh. You are tiresome.

Regards,
MG
It’s a very simple question. I understand that your cognitive dissonance must be playing havoc when you come to consider picking one (because there is only one statement that is not true). I have some sympathy for you dealing with that mental noise. It can’t be easy.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:51 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:48 pm
OK.We’re done. You’re being obtuse. And that’s giving you the benefit of a doubt. It could be something else.

Sheesh. You are tiresome.

Regards,
MG
It’s a very simple question. I understand that your cognitive dissonance must be playing havoc when you come to consider picking one (because there is only one statement that is not true). I have some sympathy for you dealing with that mental noise. It can’t be easy.
I’ve answered. My response is seemingly above your comprehension level.

You failed to answer my questions. We are left to wonder why.

Regards,
MG
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:54 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:51 pm
It’s a very simple question. I understand that your cognitive dissonance must be playing havoc when you come to consider picking one (because there is only one statement that is not true). I have some sympathy for you dealing with that mental noise. It can’t be easy.
I’ve answered. My response is seemingly above your comprehension level.

You failed to answer my questions. We are left to wonder why.

Regards,
MG
But you haven’t answered. You’ve deliberately avoided answering, and used lots of words to do so. You’ve tried to take the conversation down other rabbit holes etc but you’ve absolutely avoided answering which statement isn’t true. I completely understand why you’ve done so.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:51 pm
I understand that your cognitive dissonance must be playing havoc when you come to consider picking one (because there is only one statement that is not true). I have some sympathy for you dealing with that mental noise. It can’t be easy.
No cognitive dissonance. Projection on your part?

Regards
MG
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