Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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Buffalo wrote:
Why is that? Both Christians and Jews were slave-owning people. Eventually they gave it up, but not based on their religious principles.


Some owned slaves and some gave up slavery based on their religious principles.

Buffalo, misquoting Hoops wrote:of course there would. Pagans invented science.


Modern science arose in Christian Europe.

Buffalo isn't an intellectual, he just feigns being one on message boards.
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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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beefcalf wrote:
Do you hate everybody who doesn't subscribe to your unsupported belief system?

Is your God so very weak that you must rise in anger to his defense?


I do not suffer fools gladly.
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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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Buffalo wrote:
You mean like protein and RNA? They could have originated on earth, easily. It doesn't really matter.

There is no "faith" involved in abiogenesis. As it stands it's the most likely explanation, best supported by all available evidence, and more evidence in favor is found all the time.

Even if we didn't have a theory, that would still not leave "godditit" as a viable alternative hypothesis.


Do not pretend that you know what you are talking about because you do not.
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Blixa wrote:
Hoops wrote:Laughably ignorant. There's no one so arrogant as an atheist.


Hoops, please don't generalize about atheists just because Buffalo does.


Buffalo is arrogance wedded to ignorance. By way of contrast, Blixa seems a decent sort :)
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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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Quasimodo wrote:
The ritual killing of Pagans (in the arena) by the Christian Roman Empire.



When and where, exactly, is this supposed to have occurred?
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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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beefcalf wrote:
Translation: We Christians are thankful that you Mormons are around so when the world calls us the stupidest people on the planet, we can point to someone even stupider.


Translation of beefcalf's translation: I, beefcalf, suffer from a cognitive deficit, much like another poster with only a pretense of learning, Buffalo.
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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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Milesius,

I used to be a Christian, but eventually stopped believing.

What is your most compelling argument which might persuade me to once again become a believer?
eschew obfuscation

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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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beefcalf wrote:Milesius,

I used to be a Christian, but eventually stopped believing.

What is your most compelling argument which might persuade me to once again become a believer?


This is a good question. I'll have to think about it a little.
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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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Milesius wrote:Asinus asinum fricat.

Oh, don't be so grimly humorless. What beefcalf said was funny.
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Re: Atheism: the antithesis of cynicism

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Milesius wrote:The dark ages were caused by barbarian invasions, not Christianity, which you would know, if you were not a noxious mediocrity with just enough of learning to misquote. There was a whole world to the East that remained Christian (until the followers of Mahound swept much of it away) that did not experience the dark ages of the western part of the Old Roman Empire. Moreover, Christians are the ones who preserved the learning of antiquity.


Why do you use the strange distortion 'Mahound' to refer to Mohammed? Oh well, I suppose you may be one of those people who enjoy being rude for religious reasons. Be my guest. People from all religions do it, so why not you?

The concept of a 'Dark Ages' is of course based on a view of history that centers on the Latin West, and neglects the Eastern Roman empire that continued for long after the deposition of the last of emperor of the Western Empire. Many historians nowadays prefer not to use it at all. It also neglects the Islamic world as a contributor to human intellectual culture.

Given your reference to 'Mahound', I suppose it is to be expected that you give the Arabic-speaking world no credit at all for preserving, and in some ways developing and surpassing the learning of Greek antiquity. Do you think, for instance, that the accounts of the work of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad from the 9th century onwards are just Islamist propaganda?
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