Atheism is not a religion, right?

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Re: Atheism is not a religion, right?

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jskains wrote:
Buffalo wrote:No such thing.

I already provided similar material from LDS.org. Apparently you're selectively blind to this sort of material when it's made by the church.


Right. Keep telling yourself that. And I'll keep my ears closed every time I hear Atheists quoting Dawkings or Maher over and over and pushing books like "The God Dilusion".

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jskains wrote:
Buffalo wrote:No such thing.

I already provided similar material from LDS.org. Apparently you're selectively blind to this sort of material when it's made by the church.


Right. Keep telling yourself that. And I'll keep my ears closed every time I hear Atheists quoting Dawkings or Maher over and over and pushing books like "The God Dilusion".

JMS

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jskains wrote:Really? I have done splits with missionaries.

I have yet to have ANY missionary do this:

"Hello. Oh are you an Atheist? How stupid are you? You believe the world popped into existance due to Quantum Fluxuations? Boy is that stupid. How can you believe such nonsense? That's stupid. I tell you what. You must not be a freethinker. You let science think for you. Are you unable to consider things for yourself?"

If they did, I'd tell them they were wrong.

The fact you don't understand the difference between what happened at the Reason Rally or the Billboards posted by American Atheists and what you are refering to says a lot about your motives.


On my mission we called that approach "less effective." As in, less likely to lead to the successful murder (i.e. conversion) of a non-Mormon.

If that approach worked, we would have used it. Our purpose was to exterminate non-Mormons/bring souls to Christ, and the ends justify the means. It only happens that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

So we were nice and respectful, to be sure. But make no mistake, murdering non-Mormons was our goal.

Maybe you have a point. Maybe Dawkins and his followers would be more successful in their extermination crusade if they were as nice and respectful on the surface as LDS missionaries.
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jskains wrote:
Buffalo wrote:No such thing.

I already provided similar material from LDS.org. Apparently you're selectively blind to this sort of material when it's made by the church.


Right. Keep telling yourself that. And I'll keep my ears closed every time I hear Atheists quoting Dawkings or Maher over and over and pushing books like "The God Dilusion".

JMS


I'm an atheist. Do I push those things?

Again, atheism begins and ends with "no gods." Any other positions are individual to each atheist.
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jskains wrote:
Drifting wrote:Have you ever had a pair of teenage Atheists turn up unannounced on your door step to tell you that whatever it is that you currently believe, it isn't the truth? And then gradually over a period of time convince you that a warm feeling in your tummy is confirmation that Atheism is true? And then over more time convince you that you want to reach the upper echelons of Atheism and that's going to cost you a mere 10% of your monthly income?

Thought not.


So first off, again, that isn't how it usually goes. Second, you can easily say "no thank you". Third, they don't go around door to door much anymore.

JMS


Are you unable to refuse atheists on the internet? You don't even have to go to parts of the internet where atheists congregate. It's not like they come to you.
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jskains wrote:
Drifting wrote:Have you ever had a pair of teenage Atheists turn up unannounced on your door step to tell you that whatever it is that you currently believe, it isn't the truth? And then gradually over a period of time convince you that a warm feeling in your tummy is confirmation that Atheism is true? And then over more time convince you that you want to reach the upper echelons of Atheism and that's going to cost you a mere 10% of your monthly income?

Thought not.


So first off, again, that isn't how it usually goes. Second, you can easily say "no thank you". Third, they don't go around door to door much anymore.

JMS

I served a mission. That is how it usually goes.
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jskains wrote:
Buffalo wrote:I'm an atheist. Do I push those things?

Again, atheism beings and ends with "no gods." Any other positions are individual to each atheist.


You do know Christians don't nessesarily believe in the same things either. There are organized Christians and home practicioners.

JMS


So why are you painting atheists with such a broad brush. Your anti-atheism has really made you bitter. :(
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jskains wrote:
Drifting wrote:Have you ever had a pair of teenage Atheists turn up unannounced on your door step to tell you that whatever it is that you currently believe, it isn't the truth? And then gradually over a period of time convince you that a warm feeling in your tummy is confirmation that Atheism is true? And then over more time convince you that you want to reach the upper echelons of Atheism and that's going to cost you a mere 10% of your monthly income?

Thought not.


So first off, again, that isn't how it usually goes. Second, you can easily say "no thank you". Third, they don't go around door to door much anymore.

JMS


1. That's exactly how it goes - read 'Preach My Gospel'
2. No you can't. They don't take no for an answer. They keep coming back until you are blunt to them. Same for Home Teachers and Visiting Teachers. What was that line recently from Conference about service meaning visiting people even when they didn't want to be visited.
3. They have reduced door to door sales in favour of the 'pounce on people in the street or on the bus' approach.

I don't see atheists doing any of that.
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