Apologists Harassing Critics

[_mentalgymnast]

I want grindael to come back when and if he is ready.

And I'm totally cool with that also.

Regards,
MG

[_RockSlider]

I don't know how to explain the inconsistencies in how we react to interactions between folks here ...

What do you see in MG's posting in this thread?

[_Res Ipsa]

And that's why last Wednesday, on a dedicated thread for all to see, I offered to do just that. But the poster in question left anyway. My solution would have solved the percieved problem. Self moderation. It had come to a point where I didn't want to see the "fracas" continue.

For some reason my solution to the perceived problem wasn't acceptable.

Notice that I've said "perceived problem". My other posts upthread on pg.1 and pg. 2 go into a bit of detail as to why I describe it this way.

Regards,
MG

MG, there are two problems with your promise to stay away from Grindael. First, you were about a year too late. Second, you have a demonstrated history of saying you are going to withdraw from a conflict and not doing it. I don't think you have any street cred left on that issue, and rightly so.

If you don't see that there is a "real problem" and not just a "perceived problem," then I have to conclude that you have a serious lack of self awareness. I've seen enough examples of this to be able to fast-forward to the end of the story: either you stomp off in response to moderator action or you are shown the door (in this case, it's the door to spirit prison).

[_Res Ipsa]

I don't have a handle on exactly what the extent of MG's shadowing and harassment was. Understandably, no one's had the time or inclination to review old threads and determine how pervasive a pattern of shadowing and harassment there really was. I've seen Lemmie's example from 2014, but that doesn't mean there has been a continuous pattern of conduct since that time. I started going forward from there to find some kind of pattern, but really didn't see it in what I've reviewed so far. The interaction in November 2016 was definitely an example, but I haven't looked at the interactions between then and last week's blow up. I'm aware of people's subjective impressions, but I'm kind of a stickler for data. Occupational hazard I guess.

I'm a stickler for data too, and I have a memory for stuff like this that is more a curse than a blessing. One way I deal with too many memories is to write stuff down, especially if it is adversely affecting me or my family and friends. If you'd like my statistical analysis of the continual trolling, let me know and I'll dip into my memory journals.

That would be helpful, Lemmie. If you don't want to post, please feel free to PM it to me.

[_Res Ipsa]

I don't know how to explain the inconsistencies in how we react to interactions between folks here ...

What do you see in MG's posting in this thread?

All of them? (Just don't want to flood you with a bunch of stuff you aren't asking for.)

[_RockSlider]

All of them? (Just don't want to flood you with a bunch of stuff you aren't asking for.)

No just this thread alone.

[_Lemmie]

Why did Lemmie pick an example of MG's conduct toward Grindael in her question about what kind of stuff to report when she could have easily picked one of dozens of comments by Grindael to MG in the same thread that were similarly egregious? I don't know.

I specifically picked out the in real life attacks because in real life attacks are specifically against the rules.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I just want to say the ignore feature is actually pretty awesome. I'm literally seeing everyone's post and then a little bar with derptard's name in it, but nothing else.

If I notice someone quoting the person I have on ignore I just scroll past it because after a few days derptard's comments are pretty much out of context for me anyway.

The point I'm trying to make? You literally can just place someone on ignore and after a few days it's fine. The gist of the board remains, and it's not getting crap ted up by the narcissistic derptard's attention whoring.

I'm genuinely confused as to why Grindael didn't take advantage of this awesome moderation feature.

- Doc

[_Kishkumen]

Point being, I'm not sure you understand how thick the bias is around here.

I am sure I don't. Seriously. I suppose that the best part of this board is exactly what I am fighting against. People can say a lot of stupid crap without being called on it in the way they would be on MDDB, whose moderators would ban you from a thread, temporarily ban you from the board, or perma-ban you from the board. I have been perma-banned from MDDB before for practically nothing.

This place is a helluva lot better than that.

You bring up these examples of DCP. Uh, the whole dern board is practically dedicated to stalking that man. Without exaggeration, has a week ever gone by without at least one DCP thread? I came along and commented how disgusting I thought people's behavior was in that recent "hypothetical" thread, shortly after which it finally got moderated. I'm not sure if I had anything to do with moderators finally showing up, but it had been going on for a while prior to that point, an embarrassing spectacle.

If he were actively posting here, then he could definitely take action by reporting posts and threads. I know, he can't win either way, can he? Well, he still is the face of Mopologetics, and as such is going to catch grief. I think there should be more limits to the quantity and kind of grief he receives, but we see how far my complaints get. Indeed, I hope certain others take note of how far I have gotten with my complaints about mg. If I can't get mg placed on a queue for trolling and stalking mg, then I certainly have no power to control what people say about DCP.

[_RockSlider]

I just want to say the ignore feature is actually pretty awesome. I'm literally seeing everyone's post and then a little bar with derptard's name in it, but nothing else.

If I notice someone quoting the person I have on ignore I just scroll past it because after a few days derptard's comments are pretty much out of context for me anyway.

The point I'm trying to make? You literally can just place someone on ignore and after a few days it's fine. The gist of the board remains, and it's not getting crap ted up by the narcissistic derptard's attention whoring.

I'm genuinely confused as to why Grindael didn't take advantage of this awesome moderation feature.

- Doc

Yes, we all have the power to 'suspend' derptard (hehe) for as long was we desire. However it is only truly effective if we all suspend him. And you know what, if he learns and truly has other intents on this board than to disrupt it, well we will see it in any sincere future posting.