Then my question wasn’t for you.Whiskey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:27 pmNope. I blamed the shooter. I think the “far” spectrum is nonsense.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:03 pmWere you one of those posters to blame the far left for the Charlie Kirk murder?
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Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Yes.
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You quoted me and asked a question.
My question is for you. Who is MAGA and who is far right? Who exactly are we to condemn?
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No, my original question, that you responded to, wasn’t for you.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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The old Jordan Peterson trick. Words. What can they possibly mean?Whiskey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:52 pmHave you confirmed these facts? Not saying they are not true, I have not confirmed them. But are you sure?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:39 pmThe murderer seems to have been MAGAThose people that went went hell for leather blaming the left wing for all the violence (despite the evidence pointing in the opposite direction), have they condemned MAGA and the right wing for this atrocity?
I would like to answer your question, but before I do, Who EXACTLY is MAGA and who EXACTLY is right wing? How can I differentiate those people from the not-MAGA and the not-right wing?
Thanks. With those clarifications of who you would like condemned, we can begin the condemnation. Thanks.
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Did Jordan not do that trick when he was young?Equality wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 4:45 pmThe old Jordan Peterson trick. Words. What can they possibly mean?Whiskey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:52 pm
Have you confirmed these facts? Not saying they are not true, I have not confirmed them. But are you sure?
I would like to answer your question, but before I do, Who EXACTLY is MAGA and who EXACTLY is right wing? How can I differentiate those people from the not-MAGA and the not-right wing?
Thanks. With those clarifications of who you would like condemned, we can begin the condemnation. Thanks.
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Nevertheless, since we are putting people in boxes. Who in the hell is in the MAGA box and who is in the far right box?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 4:27 pmNo, my original question, that you responded to, wasn’t for you.
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I would just say that extreme MAGA and some Mormons…drumdude wrote: ↑Mon Sep 29, 2025 3:16 pm
In general, MAGA and Mormons don’t seem to have much bad blood between them, and seem very aligned. I think this guy would have had to go down a lot of evangelical hate filled rabbit holes to get to a message that says Mormons need to be killed for Jesus. I can’t imagine many Christians out there hold that view.
Any extremism is likely to lead people down a dark path.
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A MAGA anti-Mormon maybe.CBS News reported Burton, Mich., city council candidate Kris Johns confirmed Sanford’s anti-Mormon animosity after encountering him during a recent campaign stop: “He said Sanford had a particular dislike of the Latter-day Saints Church, which was previously known as the Mormon church. He said Sanford told him that the church’s followers ‘believe they’re above Jesus.’”
Sanford “‘said nothing about Charlie Kirk, nothing about our current president or past president,’ Johns said. ‘He asked me about guns. I said I support the Second Amendment. We ended the conversation very positively.’”
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Priceless!I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Sep 30, 2025 7:34 pmA MAGA anti-Mormon maybe.CBS News reported Burton, Mich., city council candidate Kris Johns confirmed Sanford’s anti-Mormon animosity after encountering him during a recent campaign stop: “He said Sanford had a particular dislike of the Latter-day Saints Church, which was previously known as the Mormon church. He said Sanford told him that the church’s followers ‘believe they’re above Jesus.’”
Sanford “‘said nothing about Charlie Kirk, nothing about our current president or past president,’ Johns said. ‘He asked me about guns. I said I support the Second Amendment. We ended the conversation very positively.’”
Absolutely priceless!
LOL!