harmony wrote:charity wrote:Harmony has expressed such disdain for the prophets and leaders, doctrines and practices of the Church, that the only way she can be getting a temple recommend, which she says she has, is be blinking, swallowing hard and keeping her fingers crossed during the temple recommend interview.
These are exactly those that Will described in the quoted paragraph.
Balderdash.
What balderdash? I've been following your posts, and debating you for years Harmony, and everything Charity and rc have said about you is not any more or less than what I've observed and said about you that entire time. The only one here that still thinks they can pull off this charade is you.
No one is required to revere the prophets or the leaders in order to be considered a member in good standing.
True, we don't have to "revere" a particular individual.
Disdain for prophets and leaders is not grounds for denying a temple recommend.
Oh? Alright, let's take another look at two TR interview questions:
Do you sustain the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the prophet, seer, and revelator; and do you recognize him as the only person on the earth authorized to exercise all priesthood keys?
3. Do you sustain the other General Authorities and the local authorities of the Church?
How would you answer those, Harmony? Could you, theoretically, answer those in the affirmative without disdaining them? And if you disdain them, how could you sustain them in their callings, given their particular nature?
Disdain for doctrines and practices is not grounds for denying a temple recommend.
Such as which doctrines and practices?
You're saying my bishop is not fulfilling his priesthood duty? Is not worthy of receiving appropriate inspiration about a member of his ward? You're secondguessing a priesthood leader? Don't go there, charity. That's the slippery slope to apostasy. Pretty soon you'll start thinking you know more than a duly set apart man of God, and it's all downhill from there.
The fact of the matter is that many of your personal claims regarding your membership in the Church, your relationship with your leaders, and your continuing presence in the Church is a crock.
This isn't in question. The question is, as always, what are the real issues here? rc pointed out something I've been pointing out for the duration here: if I were to mention almost any specific doctrine, practice, or concept from within the Church, you would have a criticism of it, from mocking disdain to scathing denunciation, and much of this would be directed at
core, fundamental truth claims, such as the founding of the Church and the origin of the Book of Mormon. As Groucho sang, Whatever it is, you're against it.
When called to account for it, you bristle and protest that "You don't know my heart" or "you're not my Bishop" and other such Cliff Notes platitudes intended to deflect the tough questions and circumvent the tough answers. Yet you take every pot shot at the Church and its leaders you can, day by day, week by week.
Why
do you remain in the Church Harmony?