Apologetics: Why bother?

[_Joey]

It's nap time!

Translation: "Time to read Clark and Sorenson works on Book of Mormon historicity"

[_harmony]

I am seriously liking the current Ray. ;-)

I've actually always felt this way, harmony. Well, I lie. From about 1994. Professor David Wright completely overturned any literal understanding I had of the Book of Mormon.

I was referring more to your delivery than your content. But it's all good.

[_JustMe]

Ray A

One fact I can think of is that people, or even prophets, cannot see 2,500 years into the future.

Is this the case that since you have not and cannot, then your limitations automatically make reality for all others also? I mean you probably cannot bench press 550 lbs. But are you able to then posit that since your limitations are weak, all others cannot press 550 lbs also? Just an analogy.

The fact for you is you cannot see that far into the future. Is that proof though that all others can't either?

[_harmony]

The fact for you is you cannot see that far into the future. Is that proof though that all others can't either?

The future does not exist yet. Don't you remember Yoda? Always in flux, the future is. Because we build the future, based on our choices.

[_Ray A]

Is this the case that since you have not and cannot, then your limitations automatically make reality for all others also? I mean you probably cannot bench press 550 lbs. But are you able to then posit that since your limitations are weak, all others cannot press 550 lbs also? Just an analogy.

The fact for you is you cannot see that far into the future. Is that proof though that all others can't either?

[vanity] Well when I was younger I did actually bench press over 300 lbs, and squat over 500 lbs (and although not tall, I did once look like Mike Tyson :) [/end vanity].

I also had a workmate who did BP over 500 lbs. None of this is beyond possibility.

But seeing 2,500 years into the future?

[_JustMe]

Again, just because it hasn't happened to you, is that proof that it can't happen for others? (by the way, remind me to stay on yer good side, if you were that tough as a youngster, yer still probably in great shape! GRIN!)....

[_JustMe]

Trevor

but there is precious little to hang the historical Book of Mormon on.

If all you take for this is the information on this board, I don't have any doubt! lol........ however, I have other areas which show far differently.

[_Joey]

f all you take for this is the information on this board, I don't have any doubt! lol........

The reality is that this board gives more attention the Book of Mormon historicity works of Clark and Sorenson than you wil find anywhere else. Except for perhaps some places in Provo, UT and Appleton, WI.

We've already been told by the former (current?) honcho at Farms that they are ignored elsewhere!

[_Daniel Peterson]

You're a fool, Joey. And a monotonous one, too.

[_Joey]

You're a fool, Joey. And a monotonous one, too.

What a dork Peterson.

[by the way, what is a dork? Is it like saying "flip" or "scrud" in Provo? Or is it something one throws on the grill in Appleton? Perhaps an intellectual term from Farms that just has as much exposure as the works of Book of Mormon historicity of Clark/Sorenson? Oh so many questions without the free time of a BYU teacher!!!]