To Mr Scratch

[_Gadianton]

Really? REALLY? Because he posts so many substantive and thought-provoking contributions? Or is his endless obfuscating, empty assertions, ad homs, clever putdowns, and rhetoric really that fascinating to you? Mr. Peterson was as substantive as CC. That's a fact. He never engaged in thoughtful exchanges, and was here just to push buttons. He himself said that. What was it about that bully you enjoyed so much?

Really? REALLY? We're REALLY going to compare notes on bullying? Need I remind you of a few of your charming remarks to posters here? "Fat man".."vag lips"......Snickering like a two year old and throwing random comments like "vagina" in a thread.

Come on.

Honestly...I think the person who will end up missing Daniel the most is Scratch.

Any further thread that Scratch creates involving DCP will simply gravitate into a self-congratulatory smear-fest of DCP and the "big bad Mopologists".

Without any type of opposition or argumentation, what fun reading is that?

How is it hardly worth the effort?

Liz Liz. DCP has left message boards many times. He probably wouldn't of even been here at all if it wasn't for Scratch.

[_harmony]

Really? REALLY? Because he posts so many substantive and thought-provoking contributions? Or is his endless obfuscating, empty assertions, ad homs, clever putdowns, and rhetoric really that fascinating to you? Mr. Peterson was as substantive as CC. That's a fact. He never engaged in thoughtful exchanges, and was here just to push buttons. He himself said that. What was it about that bully you enjoyed so much?

It isn't necessarily what he says, although as a general rule, he retaliates in kind. It's the voice he brings, which is not brought by anyone else. And that voice is valuable, mainly because it is underrepresented here.

[_antishock8]

Harmony,

I appreciate your insight. You make a valid point.

That said, I've never initiated an insult toward anyone on this forum, or any form that I can recall. It's always been in response to ad homs, and after giving a warning, I tend to respond a little stronger than the initial insult in order to help the originating Insulter understand the feeling of being insulted.

If Mr. Peterson could talk to others without tweaking their handles, or insulting their intelligences, then I think the level of discourse would rise considerably.

[_beastie]

Harmony,

I appreciate your insight. You make a valid point.

That said, I've never initiated an insult toward anyone on this forum, or any form that I can recall. It's always been in response to ad homs, and after giving a warning, I tend to respond a little stronger than the initial insult in order to help the originating Insulter understand the feeling of being insulted.

If Mr. Peterson could talk to others without tweaking their handles, or insulting their intelligences, then I think the level of discourse would rise considerably.

As much as I dislike some of antishock's favorite insults, I do think it's true he doesn't initiate insults. It has been true that some of his targets have protested innocence, but usually when you read the exchange carefully, you can find that they did launch the first attack - just in a more subtle manner. Antishock's insults are quite obvious and "in your face", which is why his tend to be more easily noticed.

In regards to DCP, he definitely gives as good as he gets. He often couches subtle - and humorous - insults within his posts. But having said that, there is quite a bit of focus on him, personally, on this site, and I don't blame him for getting sick of it. Yet, at the same time, he seems to actually look for this kind of interaction, so who knows. He certainly has had opportunities for more serious, less personal, discussion on this site, and consistently prefers the personal. Whatever.

[_EAllusion]

DCP more or less seems to engage in three main kinds of message board interaction.

He will debate and generally beat down people who aren't all that sharp, are quite ignorant relative to him, or happen to be arguing a dubious position. If you find yourself routinely getting into prolonged substantive debates with the man, that is a meta-commentary from him on his opinion of you. You won't see DCP debate someone like Beastie or Metcalfe much. He'll go after Harmony on end. There's a reason for that.

He will show up in threads and throw out a few lines of gossip, veiled insults, innuendo, or just bald negative assement to discredit a poster(s)/critic(s) without directly engaging them.

He discuss at length issues related to his character. If he's given an inch on this front, he'll take a mile. He'll transform discussions or comments that have little to nothing to do with his character into assaults on his person so to discuss them while ignoring the more substantive aspects of the discussion. If there are valid complaints about his behavior, he'll strawman them into absurd attacks on him and respond. If there are attacks on him out there, which there almost invariably are, he'll float about and sarcastically revel in them.

[_harmony]

He'll go after Harmony on end. There's a reason for that.

I think I've just been insulted... again.

[_harmony]

He'll go after Harmony on end. There's a reason for that.

I think I've just been insulted... again.



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[_EAllusion]

He'll go after Harmony on end. There's a reason for that.

I think I've just been insulted... again.

If it helps, I felt bad about saying it. Not bad enough, obviously. But yeah, there's no sugar coating what I implied there.

[_harmony]

If it helps, I felt bad about saying it. Not bad enough, obviously. But yeah, there's no sugar coating what I implied there.

Actually, I think it had more to do with our initial encounter than anything else. Evidently I pricked him pretty bad, without ever realizing he was taking it as a sexual insult. It took 10 years to clear it up... 10 years in which he took every opportunity to savage me that he could find. And since I never claimed to have the background that Trixie or Brent have, or the interest in the things that interest them, it's not surprising that I don't argue to that level. I'm not about to spend years on research of something I have limited interest in. I prefer to stand on the sidelines of those debates and just watch.

[_Mister Scratch]

This makes perfect sense to me, and falls in line with some of my own dealings with departmental loans via academia.

Scratch, it is obvious that you have either

1. Never taught for a university and/or worked in an academic arena.

or

2. Are being purposefully ignorant.

A loan of employees between departments, potential departments, or even clients with a dotted line connection is all very common in academia.

Liz,

You seem to have misunderstood what I was saying. All I have been saying is this:

DCP was paid for apologetics.

That's it. I am not arguing that there was something "amiss" with the BYU/FARMS transaction. As far as that goes, I'm simply pointing out that he wasn't telling the truth when he said that "not one dime" of his salary went towards Mopologetics. Clearly, as you appear to understand based on the above, part of his salary *did* go towards his FARMS Chairmanship, which is, as I have pointed out, a fundamentally apologetic position.