Jersey Girl wrote:I've already demonstrated what rules it's been governed by. That you choose to ignore that is not my problem, it's clearly yours.
If I remember correctly, you, or marg, said that this thread will be governed by Celestial forum rules, even though it's in the Terrestrial. And marg was brought in partly for that purpose.
marg wrote:by the way, Ray with regards to unfair treatment please note as you go through the thread,... I deleted an ad hom by Bryon against D. Peterson. He called him Danny Boy and I deleted it and wrote in red (ad hom) then replaced that with Mr. Peterson.
For the love of....
Seriously? "Danny Boy" is enough to not only get deleted, but REPLACED with "Mr. Peterson"?????
This kind of moderation is incredibly stupid. The actions Ray originally described (and the admitted preferential treatment given to UD, for whom I have the utmost respect) are also very stupid. It's one thing to moderate for vulgarities and out-and-out attacks, but "protecting" a poster and replacing supposed ad homs with more "respectful" language is ultimately misguided and quite frankly, insulting to the participants on this board.
Yes because it ad hominal, it's condescending. But in my example I'm protecting a critic which Ray doesn't think I would do. That thread is not the same as every other thread on this forum. It's not the same as this thread for example, in which people throw out opinions with so little thought, effort or time invested, as you have done. People on there, some of them, have invested significant amount of time and effort to an issue they take very seriously. I appreciate that many perhaps most faithful Mormons do not think the Spalding theory significant. The significance of it from an objective viewpoint is that it might be history, and that is important. It is essentially a Celestial type thread and should be treated as such, but it was kept there where it first originated by mutual agreement of Jersey Girl, & mods rather than to be moved. Oh how easy it is to throw out opinions which require no effort.
Look the facts are Dale has not been given special protection, it's unfair to him to suggest otherwise, but if it makes a difference to Ray, I have and without further complaint quit moderating. So let's end this discussion.
marg wrote:Look the facts are Dale has not been given special protection, it's unfair to him to suggest otherwise, but if it makes a difference to Ray, I have and without further complaint quit moderating. So let's end this discussion.
He was, and that's no ill-reflection on Dale.
His presentation of the Spalding theory has been, in my opinion, remarkably open and honest as far as its shortcomings are. And I don't for one minute entirely dismiss his research. In fact, that honesty has prompted me to further investigation, and while I think it will largely be an upstream battle, my mind isn't closed.
Are there any further measures you are requesting?
Are you asking that any posters be suspended, or banned, or otherwise disciplined?
UD
Not at all. A moderator isn't the same as a poster. Jersey Girl was stripped of moderator status (I'll ler her tell the story in graphic detail), but she's still posting, and now at 7085 posts. > > >
marg wrote:Look the facts are Dale has not been given special protection, it's unfair to him to suggest otherwise, but if it makes a difference to Ray, I have and without further complaint quit moderating. So let's end this discussion.
He was, and that's no ill-reflection on Dale.
His presentation of the Spalding theory has been, in my opinion, remarkably open and honest as far as its shortcomings are. And I don't for one minute entirely dismiss his research. In fact, that honesty has prompted me to further investigation, and while I think it will largely be an upstream battle, my mind isn't closed.
No he was not given special protection. I did not delete Mikwut's remark's nor move them. So nothing special was done. Look Ray the issue here is not you or your research, or whether your mind is open, please spare us from your self flattery and delusions about yourself.
marg wrote:Look Ray the issue here is not you or your research, or whether your mind is open, please spare us from your self flattery and delusions about yourself.
And please spare me your know-it-all attitude. The woman who reads as little as possible, and has all the answers to the mysteries of the Universe.
marg freely complied with my request to cease moderating that particular thread. Not only that, but she has relinquished her moderator status altogether by her own suggestion and choice.
That was quite a significant olive branch she offered, methinks. Hopefully y'all can appreciate this honest effort at peacekeeping that marg made.
So, everyone's concerns about the moderation of that thread are effectively over. Time for a clean slate.
Can we all join hands and bury the hatchet?
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