Why LDS Mormons are not Christian.

[_beastie]

So, your counter argument is because you said so? Mormon doctrine from magic rocks in the hat of a convicted con man, or from the book of breathings is not Christian. It's very typical for Mormons to appease their cognitive dissonance with parallel arguments, because that's all they have and is what they've been instructed to believe. Again, call yourself what you wish, but if you define it as anything but "Mormon" you'll be presenting yourself as someone who rejects Mormon doctrine.

Thews,

Posters are trying to get you to recognize that you've committed a very basic logical fallacy in your reasoning. This page may help you recognize it:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

[_thews]

So Catholicism isn't a Christian faith? Apparently Christianity just took a millennium and a half off between the time of its founder and the time when people finally figured him out.

Catholicism is based on the Bible only. While aspects of the Catholic faith and other Christian faiths vary, the doctrine doesn't. Again, Mormons are the only ones who accept Mormon doctrine... all other Christian faiths reject Mormon as false, and Joseph Smith as a false prophet of God.

Just dumb. You could just as easily define Christian faiths are all religions that believe in Jesus and don't worship the false god of Biblical inerrancy, and then say "All Christian faiths think that Protestants are a bunch of doofuses". Or you could define true rock fans as people who hate the Beatles, and say "All rock fans reject John Lennon as their favorite musician".

No, all Christian faiths reject Joseph Smith and his magic rocks in his hat, along with the pagan book of breathings inspired plural God theories as false ...all of them ...except Mormons. Continue to draw parallel arguments to imply two wrongs make a right ..it's all you have and it's how the Mormon church teaches you to ignore what doesn't make sense, so it's understandable, but Christianity doesn't encompass Joseph Smith as a prophet of God ...only "Mormons" do.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

beastie, can you provide an example of a religion that is not Christian but does involve Christ?

And I think the majority of Christian faiths would answer you earlier question with a NO, Mormons are not saved, unless they are universalist.

[_beastie]

Catholicism is based on the Bible only. While aspects of the Catholic faith and other Christian faiths vary, the doctrine doesn't.

Arrgggghhhh!!!

by the way, this may help this discussion:

Nontrinitarianism (or Antitrinitarianism) includes all Christian belief systems that reject as non-scriptural, wholly or partly, the doctrine of the Trinity—the doctrine that the God of the Bible is three distinct persons in one being, and that these three persons are eternal and equal in nature, authority, and knowledge.

Well, what do you know - nontrinitarians are classified as Christian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism

[_beastie]

beastie, can you provide an example of a religion that is not Christian but does involve Christ?

And I think the majority of Christian faiths would answer you earlier question with a NO, Mormons are not saved, unless they are universalist.

Islam. Judaism.

By what basis do you think the majority of Christian faiths would answer my question with a no?

[_Jason Bourne]

Jersey Girl:

Mormonism is a Christian heresy and as richardmdborn pointed out, it more closely resembles the Paganism that is condemned throughout the Bible, which Mormonism claims to accept as scripture.

How so? Please give me five elements of Mormonism that is pagan in nature.

[_Gadianton Plumber]

beastie, can you provide an example of a religion that is not Christian but does involve Christ?

And I think the majority of Christian faiths would answer you earlier question with a NO, Mormons are not saved, unless they are universalist.

Islam. Judaism.

By what basis do you think the majority of Christian faiths would answer my question with a no?

You could slide Mormonism in with those, I think.

Because Mormonism does not accept the same Christ. He is extra-biblical, a MPH Christ.

[_Thama]

Catholicism is based on the Bible only. While aspects of the Catholic faith and other Christian faiths vary, the doctrine doesn't. Again, Mormons are the only ones who accept Mormon doctrine... all other Christian faiths reject Mormon as false, and Joseph Smith as a false prophet of God.

Go read a Catholic catechism. This isn't even close to being accurate. A central theme of the Reformation was rejection of the Pope as representative of God, and the rejection of what we now think of as unique Catholic doctrines.

No, all Christian faiths reject Joseph Smith and his magic rocks in his hat, along with the pagan book of breathings inspired plural God theories as false ...all of them ...except Mormons. Continue to draw parallel arguments to imply two wrongs make a right ..it's all you have and it's how the Mormon church teaches you to ignore what doesn't make sense, so it's understandable, but Christianity doesn't encompass Joseph Smith as a prophet of God ...only "Mormons" do.

(FYI - I'm not Mormon.)

Actually, that would be all Christian faiths except for Mormons... much like all Christian groups except Catholics reject the Pope as their leader. If your argument is aimed at showing that Mormons aren't Christian, you can't include the assumption that they aren't Christian as a piece of evidence for your argument.

[_beastie]

ou could slide Mormonism in with those, I think.

Because Mormonism does not accept the same Christ. He is extra-biblical, a MPH Christ.

Oh, come on. Islam and Judaism accept that Christ existed and was a holy man, but they explicitly do not accept him as "Savior". This is the exact opposite of Mormonism.

For heaven's sake, Mormons even think he was Jehovah!!! He's definitely GOD in Mormonism.

[_Ray A]

It’s funny to hear that Catholicism isn’t Christian when it provided the very canonical Gospels we have today. It’s sort of like saying George Washington wasn’t American.