Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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Do you agree or disagree that poster Beavis Christ should change his avatar?

Poll ended at Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:45 pm

 
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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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Darth J wrote:Here's what I think:

I think this is one of those pictures that someone really thought was depicting a serious Christian message but ended up being unintentionally hilarious.

I don't know who painted this or why, or I wouldn't be asking. But it seems to me that the artist wanted to show that when we have a damaging lifestyle, we are hurting Jesus. I don't mean like "when you swear you make Baby Jesus cry," but in the sense of "when you do it unto the least of these, you do it unto me." In other words, it is because of Jesus' compassion and concern for us that this well-armed cardsharp shooting heroin is as if Jesus were experiencing it, too.

Unfortunately, in execution it looks like Jesus is stealing his drugs.


I think its a representation of Jesus taking on our specific sins, rather than our sins "hurting" Jesus. But, I agree with you. This painting make Jesus look like a bad drug buddy who steps on your shot. Not cool, dude, not cool.
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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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MrStakhanovite wrote:The man you see in this picture is none other than John ‘Runtu’ during the height of his apostasy from the Church. The painter is none other than Wade Englund, who was attempting to convey the poor condition that humanity often finds itself when it follows the desires of the heart, and not of the spirit.

John had come to the conclusion that he did not want to be like Jesus Christ, and slowly sped down a jaded spiral of sex, drugs, and rock n roll. The various weapons strewn about represent the violence John has done not only to himself, his family, and to the community of believers at-large, we see the apex of the damage being done to none other than the savior himself, stressing the importance of the atonement. John ‘Runtu’ may have turned his back to the Gospel, but the living embodiment of that Gospel has not returned in the favor at all, in fact, he still grants John grace, by offering his own vein to the poison.

The alcohol, cigarettes and the heroine represent John’s replacement of the “spiritual high’ with the “chemical high”. There is a gaping abyss in John ’Runtu’s heart that he rushes to fill, but just like Dr. Shade’s sexual perversion knows no bounds, John’s cravings are endless.

The cards are of course, the gamble John has taken with his spiritual soul, I recall the poignant lyrics of the band Motorhead, where Lemmy croons, “You know I’m born to lose, and gambling’ is for fools, but that’s the way I like it baby. I don’t want to live forever!” This devil-may-care attitude has overcome John, and has lead him to these seedy motel where we now see him.

The handprint on the door is a significant and powerful image. The door expresses John’s way out, the first step in the corporate mass marketed plan of salvation, it is covered with a fine layer of dust, to show that it was not been touched in some time, but in a moment of painful sobriety, we can almost picture Runtu, crawling to the door, looking to escape, but his ravenous hunger and need to spot trains overtook his common sense.

And finally the skull puts the finishing touches to the artwork and is Wade’s tribute to “vanitas art” and a throwback to a monumental spiritual experience that once overtook him when he was viewing Philippe de Champaigne’s 1671 masterpiece. Wade had noticed an elderly man wheelchair bound, being fed applesauce by a young caretaker when suddenly scripture came to his lips and he found himself saying, “ Vanity of Vanity, all is vanity” and he knew what the Gospel was trying to show him. Our fleshly tabernacles are just temporary vessels, that will be discarded sooner rather than later, and that should only bring us joy, for it means that we will received a perfected body when the day of the LORD comes.


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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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MrStakhanovite wrote:... but his ravenous hunger and need to spot trains overtook his common sense....


le mot juste

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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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I'm a little more worried by the same artist's Warren Jeff's Jesus:

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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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Blixa wrote:I'm a little more worried by the same artist's Warren Jeff's Jesus:

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Oh please. That's obviously taking place in the context of a purity ball.
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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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Quasimodo wrote:I'm not sure BC was drawing a comparison between his avatar and religious beliefs. Just that Nightlion had delivered an ultimatum about BC, while no one, who might be offended at Nightlion's claims, had done so.


That is exactly what I was doing. People on this board, including TBMs and Nightlion, tolerate all kinds of offensive behavior.

Honestly, that is what makes this board funner to participate in than the others. There are lots of personal attacks but I think everyone enjoys the vigorous conversational fight.

I wish we had more neo-orthodox Mormons and paleo-orthodox Mormons here but it seems that many are too afraid to come in. I'd especially love to have people who hail from the Bruce McConkie school of Mormonism as they seem to be in rather short supply online. I'd love to see them knock some apostate mopologist skulls.

The TBMs and critics may not like each other much but at least we keep each other entertained.

It was out of respect for that shared experience that I changed my avatar. Nightlion's dramatics played no role in my decision. I draw the line at accommodating others with the username and sig, though. If that means Nightlion or someone else is going to electronically immolate himself, that's of no concern to me.
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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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Not a problem for me. Perhaps if you are artistically talented, you can develop an alternative avatar, maybe Beavis holding a tiny pea-shooter-gun.
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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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Beavis Christ wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:I'm not sure BC was drawing a comparison between his avatar and religious beliefs. Just that Nightlion had delivered an ultimatum about BC, while no one, who might be offended at Nightlion's claims, had done so.


That is exactly what I was doing. People on this board, including TBMs and Nightlion, tolerate all kinds of offensive behavior.

Honestly, that is what makes this board funner to participate in than the others. There are lots of personal attacks but I think everyone enjoys the vigorous conversational fight.

I wish we had more neo-orthodox Mormons and paleo-orthodox Mormons here but it seems that many are too afraid to come in. I'd especially love to have people who hail from the Bruce McConkie school of Mormonism as they seem to be in rather short supply online. I'd love to see them knock some apostate mopologist skulls.

The TBMs and critics may not like each other much but at least we keep each other entertained.

It was out of respect for that shared experience that I changed my avatar. Nightlion's dramatics played no role in my decision. I draw the line at accommodating others with the username and sig, though. If that means Nightlion or someone else is going to electronically immolate himself, that's of no concern to me.


I agree with everything you said. I do wonder if that new avatar wouldn't be more appropriate for Stemelbow, though? :)
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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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Skinny skinny elbows-- truly fits.
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Re: Poll: Should Beavis change his avatar?

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Darth J wrote:Regarding whether something is gratuitously blasphemous just so someone can be a scenester, or whether something has an actual artistic message that some people might find blasphemous, I still want some to explain what message is being conveyed here:

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Christ takes the HIT for us. (not dope specifically, but sins generally) I do not find this gratuitous blasphemy. It is stunning and troublesome. I think, however, that the artist got the wrong expression on the face of Christ. Not great art.
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