So you've actually got nothing to say about the topic of this thread. You're merely chasing me from thread to thread, badgering me.
Please stop doing that.
No, you need to own up to the fact that you're defending a despicable character who has made some pretty outrageous statements, with unprecedented disgust for online apologists. For you and your apologetic lot to choose to defend him instead of separating yourselves from him, implies, whether you like it or not, that you choose to dismiss, minimize, or rationalize his actions instead because your hatred of teh apostates goes much deeper than anyone had imagined. You're willing to stand by and turn a blind eye to his repulsive behavior, simply because those who were offended mostly fall into the category of "apostate." You seem more intent on chastizing those who have been offended by Wilbur's remarks, simply because you've judged them as evil covenant breakers. Well tell me Pahoran, what of the Temple Interview asking if you have been honest with your fellow man? He is no better than Harmony or anyone else who goes to the temple with a weak testimony. But you were never interested in being impartial, we know.
But here is a news flash for you. You don't get to pick and choose irrelevant points to debate while ignoring the elephant in the room. Not here. Don't give me this crap about how we're only talking about C&E in this thread, because you know we're talking about everything that has been raised in this thread, including your challenges to the relevant facts - such as whether or not Will has a history of lying. You challenged that claim. You said it was only true "according to those who hate him," or whatever, as if there were no real evidence to support it and as such, I must be lying about this. But I have proved that it is true according to Will's own statements. So I offer much more than bald assertion, and you know it. So you demonstrate that you're not even pretending to be reasonable here when you dismiss out of hand, the fact that your client is already a discredited witness - who is here participating using no less than two other accounts because he is truly that pathetic. He is lying as we speak, and his testimony would be thrown out of any court, any day of the week, and you know this.
You know what he has done is repulsive on many levels, but instead of chastizing your buddy for making your religion look stupid, you decided you'd try to blow smoke on this subject by reiterating the fact that only Will knows for sure what is in Will's mind. What a stupid argument and horrible attempt to derail.
Tell us Pahoran, and stop beating about the bush: What do you think about William's claim that Kimberly is a whore? Is that becoming of an LDS priesthood holder? Did she deserve that? And please don't bring up something beastie said in the past about Mormon women thinking of England, as this is merely a diversion that makes you look stupid. Kimberly is not beastie, and Wilbur was not responding to any attacks coming from her. And all you have to say on the matter is that it was in "bad taste," and classify it as mere "trash talk"? I know you're using a pseudonym now, but when this thing takes on a life of its own (and it will) and expands beyond this forum, I can assure you that your name will be attached to your positions on these matters. So now is the time to put up or shut up.
And don't forget to address the rest. What do you think about Will's numerous references to the men here gathered in a circle to masturbate on a biscuit? What do you think about his explicit reference to the lot of us engaging in anal sex with one another? Is this becoming of an LDS priesthood holder?
Wake up! This is the guy you came to defend, so if you want to defend him, then stop insulting everyone's intelligence and get down to the nitty gritty already. Deal with the most egregious examples. If you don't want to defend them, then at least comment on them. And don't play stupid and tell us it was mere "trash talk." And stop wasting everyone's time here, nit picking over irrelevant garbage like the C&E comments. I couldn't care less if Wilbur thinks his calling and election was made sure. His comments about this weren't even cited in the Op Ed that started this whole thing. Beastie raised the issue later on as a possible rationale for why Will would think he was above reproach. That's it. Then you came in, ignored the entirety of MsJack's post, and decided to make much ado about nothing over beastie's interpretation of Will's past C&E comments. This is like Johnny Cochran spending three hours talking about the unusual landscape of the Simpson garden, instead of dealing with the DNA evidence his client left at the scene. Your sole purpose here is to derail, so stop complaining about me chasing you around. If I am "chasing you" around as you say, then
it is only because you're running around. You refuse to deal with the heart of the matter.
