Russel M. Nelson comments on big bang theory and evolution

[_bcspace]

Wait, wait....does this mean that every single thing found on LDS.org must also be treated as official doctrine?

Within context, yes.

[_Runtu]

You do more to make Mormonism look ridiculous than any other poster on this board. I'm almost certain that you are really an anti-Mormon pretending to be a faithful believer. You're really good at it, dude. Really good at it.

It is quite an accomplishment to convince people not to trust publications from the church.

[_J Green]

Wait, wait....does this mean that every single thing found on LDS.org must also be treated as official doctrine?

Within context, yes.

CFR.

[Guest]

Within context, yes.

And just WHERE can this Russel M. Nelson talk be found?

[_Darth J]

This site is owned and operated by Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Trademarks

“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Liahona,” “Book of Mormon,” and “Mormon” are trademarks of Intellectual Reserve, Inc.


http://www.LDS.org/legal/terms?lang=eng

I agree that the LOL face is really good for highlighting the fact that you don't know what you're talking about. Bringing up trademarks is irrelevant. Trademark and copyright are two different things.

And a trademark is not a legal entity. It is just a visual representation. IRI does not own "the Church." IRI owns the following way of writing The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints:



The legal entity that Latter-day Saints commonly refer to as "the Church" is the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This is a different legal entity that Intellectual Reserve, Inc.

[_bcspace]

This is actually pretty funny. BC appears to be making the argument here that IRI could hold intellectual property over other material for which the Church may or may not have exercised editorial control. Thus the fact that all Church-published material bears the IRI mark does not necessarilly prove to BC that all material with an IRI mark is Church-published material. The fact that all of X is Y does not autimatically mean that all of Y is X. And in order to grant that all of Y is X in this case, he needs to see evidence where the Church explicitly states that all of Y is X.

It's yet to be proven that all IRI stamps are Chruch published as Runtu claimed so this is not quite the argument yet. But consider this fact: all scripture is doctrine, but not all doctrine is scripture.

Consistency, it's what's for dinner.

Indeed. But I'm not yet sure you're at the table.

[_Equality]

Wait, wait....does this mean that every single thing found on LDS.org must also be treated as official doctrine?

Within context, yes.

Another way of saying "if I agree with it, yes." Welcome to Cafeteria Mormonhood!

[_Buffalo]

This site is owned and operated by Corporation of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Trademarks

“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Liahona,” “Book of Mormon,” and “Mormon” are trademarks of Intellectual Reserve, Inc.


http://www.LDS.org/legal/terms?lang=eng

So still no "© The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"? Keep looking, I'm sure you'll find it. :)

[_Runtu]

It's yet to be proven that all IRI stamps are Chruch published as Runtu claimed so this is not quite the argument yet. But consider this fact: all scripture is doctrine, but not all doctrine is scripture.

All you have to do to disprove my statement is show a publication with an IRI copyright that wasn't published by the church. You can't, and you know it, which is why you've gone back to your ad hominem chant of "liar." When you start spluttering about lying anti-Mormons, it just shows you know you have lost.

[_Darth J]

I'm sorry, but you said we can't be sure that something copyrighted by IRI is official LDS doctrine.

To be sure, it must also be published by the Church.

Show me where the Church, not IRI, said that.

Doesn't matter. The Church did not write that statement.

IRI didn't write it.

You have no way of knowing that and no way of proving that.

Unless you want to argue that 20th Century Fox wrote the screenplay to Star Wars.

The Church, as noted above, is in control of what is published and yes, in this case, the Church wrote it, not some other entity.

You have no way of knowing that and no way of proving that.

You have convinced me that being copyrighted by IRI does not prove that something is official doctrine, and the only statement about "publication" is copyrighted by IRI. Therefore, we cannot be sure that the "Approaching Mormon Doctrine" statement--including the verbiage about publication--is official doctrine according to your own argument.