John Gee's FAIR Presentation

[_Kishkumen]

I work and publish in CS realms. If I went to an ancillary conference and said so and so is wrong in their methodology but I won't show you why, you'll have to believe me on my say so, I would honestly expect to be heckled.

YES! And if you were to do such a thing, you should be heckled.

But you don't and won't.

[_dblagent007]

Exactly. The only person who said anything about his reputation among Egyptologists is Robert Ritner, who is most definitely qualified to comment on this issue. Hamblin, on the other hand, is not.

Yes, this. It was Ritner who said that Gee was increasingly visible but not increasingly respected in Egyptological circles.

I find it hard to believe that Gee can be dishonest and ignorant with his Book of Abraham apologetics, but then be a top scholar in Egyptology. I think it is more likely that he does shoddy work in both.

Gee is a walking nightmare of bad apologetics. The two inks theory, the 40 feet of missing scroll, the hieratic was taken randomly from the papyri (at least Gee had the sense to make Schryver give this presentation), and now this business about Cook/Smith made mistakes that I refuse to identify that makes their scroll calculation incorrect. The guy is a joke, a complete and absolute joke.

[_SteelHead]

And over at the hamblin blog anything that is not the group backslapping is not making it out of the moderation queue. Funny how those folks will not play anywhere with a level field.

[_Cicero]

Mortal Man: I am fairly sure that they are talking about this thread based on the comments to Bill's post.

[_Joe Geisner]

"And so doctors must be allowed to sit in judgement on their own cases because no one else is qualified; and if there is just nothing we can do about it, since their experience is far beyond the reach of the layman, placing them in fact "at the intellectual summit of the universe" by the ancient professional mystery of "autodeification in the order of knowing"".

"The Bishop is not interested in Webb's arguments and evidence, but in his status and rank - considerations that are supposed to bear no weight whatever with the honest searchers after truth - Nullus in Verba! What on earth have a man's name, degree, acedemic position and, of all things, opinions, to do with whether a thing is true or not?"

Nibley Jan 1968 Era pg 21-22

I love it!!!! Oh the irony,

[_Mortal Man]

Mortal Man: I am fairly sure that they are talking about this thread based on the comments to Bill's post.

I asked them both what they were talking about. My query on Bill's blog did not make it through moderation. Dan's response indicates that he hadn't looked at this thread when he made his post.

[_Cicero]

Mortal Man: I am fairly sure that they are talking about this thread based on the comments to Bill's post.

I asked them both what they were talking about. My query on Bill's blog did not make it through moderation. Dan's response indicates that he hadn't looked at this thread when he made his post.

Looking at both posts again, it appears that Dan was really only linking to Bill's post and then referring generally to prior criticisms of him regarding what he (DCP) has said about Ritner. Bill, on the other hand, likely was referring to this post (probably more to what Kevin has said on this thread than to you or Chris, but Bill being Bill he paints us all as uneducated hacks hanging out in a cosmic sewer).

[_Doctor Scratch]

Hamblin, just like his pal DCP, is too afraid to actually refer readers to this board. He's even got one of his toadies--Stephen "Pimple-Popper" Smoot--kissing his butt and following suit. Smoot is probably making his move right about now, hoping to be amongst the "freshly anointed" Mopologetic hit squad, right alongside Bryce Haymond.

[_Cicero]

Hamblin, just like his pal DCP, is too afraid to actually refer readers to this board. He's even got one of his toadies--Stephen "Pimple-Popper" Smoot--kissing his butt and following suit. Smoot is probably making his move right about now, hoping to be amongst the "freshly anointed" Mopologetic hit squad, right alongside Bryce Haymond.

Yep

http://americantestament.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/fair-conference-pics/

[_Stormy Waters]

Bill Hamblin has responded via his blog.

Why not at least attribute those posts to their authors and provide a link? I don't think that's too much to ask.