Science and Mormonism

[_Bhodi]

Bhodi,

What I wrote down was a short one sentence definition of Cerenkov radiation that could be easily memorized so that one could properly answer a test question on the subject. It described the basic distinguishing characteristics of Cerenkov radiation.

So your claim is you knew what you were talking about and resorted to memory? Then you are not telling the truth.

[_Darth J]

Remember when we used to catch Simon Belmont plagiarizing things?

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 0&start=63

And remember how Simon Belmont consistently demonstrated a sense of tit-for-tat vendetta about everything?

Isn't it just the darndest thing that Bhodi has this curious need to manufacture a claim that an infidel is plagiarizing something?

[_Josh Seconal]

I thought I was Belmot!

[_Bhodi]

Remember when we used to catch Simon Belmont plagiarizing things?

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 0&start=63

And remember how Simon Belmont consistently demonstrated a sense of tit-for-tat vendetta about everything?

Isn't it just the darndest thing that Bhodi has this curious need to manufacture a claim that an infidel is plagiarizing something?

Dr W recently plagiarized information on Iran. In this case he justified plagiarism because the information was so simple. Here the information is so simple that he repeats the same phraseology. He plagiarized and does not want to admit it. You want to call it a vendetta because he is a member if the tribe and you want to defend the tribe, it is a common occurrence. Were this a Mormon plagiarizing, you would not tolerate it, but you do in Dr W's case because he is on "your team" which is fine. He discussed the Middle East based in his extensive knowledge and made significant errors. None of this is tolerable in those you criticize but is acceptable in your camraderie. I have no problem with this, but thought I would point it out.

[_DrW]

Remember when we used to catch Simon Belmont plagiarizing things?

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 0&start=63

And remember how Simon Belmont consistently demonstrated a sense of tit-for-tat vendetta about everything?

Isn't it just the darndest thing that Bhodi has this curious need to manufacture a claim that an infidel is plagiarizing something?

Dr W recently plagiarized information on Iran. In this case he justified plagiarism because the information was so simple. Here the information is so simple that he repeats the same phraseology. He plagiarized and does not want to admit it. You want to call it a vendetta because he is a member if the tribe and you want to defend the tribe, it is a common occurrence. Were this a Mormon plagiarizing, you would not tolerate it, but you do in Dr W's case because he is on "your team" which is fine. He discussed the Middle East based in his extensive knowledge and made significant errors. None of this is tolerable in those you criticize but is acceptable in your camraderie. I have no problem with this, but thought I would point it out.

Bhodi was apparently not paying attention when the location notice on my avatar read "Coast of Oman" for seven months in 2012. He somehow got the idea that I could not have been in Oman, even though I posted pictures of the Omani mountains and marine fossils on this site while I was there, and even posted a stamped wire transfer confirmation from Omani Arab Bank for payment of our October invoice.

Bhodi claims to have lived in the Middle East and felt qualified to advise me on how we should run our operations there, even though we were operating well in the black. He claimed that he had a friend that could live there on $100 a month and therefore we were spending too much on lodging and per diem. In his mind, this was evidence to him that I had not actually been in Oman, but was making the whole thing up. He has advised me to seek held more than once.

He stated at one time that he had no interest in posting in the Terrestrial forum because of the generally anti-Mormon tone down here. Bhodi has apparently decided that the case against Mormonism is being made so strongly down here that his special knowledge and insights are required in defense of the faith.

Bhodi reminds me of DCP, who would magically show up, both here and over on the MADBoard, when the opposition started to score points. Since he had no evidence backed position on which to stand, their main tactic was to try to personally discredit the opposition.

Problem with Bhodi is that he seems clueless at times, quite often in fact.

[_Darth J]

Remember when we used to catch Simon Belmont plagiarizing things?

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 0&start=63

And remember how Simon Belmont consistently demonstrated a sense of tit-for-tat vendetta about everything?

Isn't it just the darndest thing that Bhodi has this curious need to manufacture a claim that an infidel is plagiarizing something?

Dr W recently plagiarized information on Iran. In this case he justified plagiarism because the information was so simple. Here the information is so simple that he repeats the same phraseology. He plagiarized and does not want to admit it. You want to call it a vendetta because he is a member if the tribe and you want to defend the tribe, it is a common occurrence. Were this a Mormon plagiarizing, you would not tolerate it, but you do in Dr W's case because he is on "your team" which is fine. He discussed the Middle East based in his extensive knowledge and made significant errors. None of this is tolerable in those you criticize but is acceptable in your camraderie. I have no problem with this, but thought I would point it out.

Not to change the subject, but a differently-worded sentence describing the same phenomenon is not what plagiarism is.

So, you were saying something about where your sundry graduate degrees are from, and what fields they are in, and when you obtained them?

[_Bhodi]

Not to change the subject, but a differently-worded sentence describing the same phenomenon is not what plagiarism is.

Actually it is. Simply rearranging a paragraph is still plagiarism. I failed a student for doing it once. It is also not the first time. A little over a month ago he did the same thing here....

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27937

His excuse was

"What I posted was selected from the website because it should be common knowledge."

Here it was so common that he had to copy it. Now e is saying that he voluntarily spit out a definition that is simply rearranged wikipedia, but it is just conicidence.

So, you were saying something about where your sundry graduate degrees are from, and what fields they are in, and when you obtained them?

Yes. And I know how to cite sources, Dr. W does not. It is odd, I agree.

[_Bhodi]

Bhodi was apparently not paying attention when the location notice on my avatar read "Coast of Oman" for seven months in 2012. He somehow got the idea that I could not have been in Oman, even though I posted pictures of the Omani mountains and marine fossils on this site while I was there, and even posted a stamped wire transfer confirmation from Omani Arab Bank for payment of our October invoice.

Bhodi claims to have lived in the Middle East and felt qualified to advise me on how we should run our operations there, even though we were operating well in the black. He claimed that he had a friend that could live there on $100 a month and therefore we were spending too much on lodging and per diem. In his mind, this was evidence to him that I had not actually been in Oman, but was making the whole thing up. He has advised me to seek held more than once.

He stated at one time that he had no interest in posting in the Terrestrial forum because of the generally anti-Mormon tone down here. Bhodi has apparently decided that the case against Mormonism is being made so strongly down here that his special knowledge and insights are required in defense of the faith.

Bhodi reminds me of DCP, who would magically show up, both here and over on the MADBoard, when the opposition started to score points. Since he had no evidence backed position on which to stand, their main tactic was to try to personally discredit the opposition.

Problem with Bhodi is that he seems clueless at times, quite often in fact.

You claim to have visited all of these places, then make statements that betray a lack of even minor understanding. When I asked if you bargained for hotel rooms you scoffed, but anyone who has been in these areas knows you always bargain. I even pointed to a website that called people who did not bargain "suckers which is actually polite. This is a fairly significant disconnect, if you know so little about an area, how can you possible have claimed to have spent considerable time there? If you did spend considerable time in a foreign location, and still have so little knowledge, that is even worse in my opinion.

[_DrW]

Bhodi,

What I wrote down was a short one sentence definition of Cerenkov radiation that could be easily memorized so that one could properly answer a test question on the subject. It described the basic distinguishing characteristics of Cerenkov radiation.

So your claim is you knew what you were talking about and resorted to memory? Then you are not telling the truth.

Bhodi,

As I pointed out to you, Cerenkov radiation is covered in 100 level undergraduate physics text books. As many folks on this board know, I worked for more than 20 years as a scientist and manager at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation in Washington State.

Last weekend, as it turns out, I had lunch with a colleague of mine from Hanford who now is a senior manager at the Turkey Point Nuclear Power Plant here in South Florida. This individual is an expert in steam driven power systems and I was picking his brain for information relevant to my company's steam driven power generation technology.

One subject of conversation was the thermal management and monitoring of spent nuclear fuel rods and assemblies once they are removed from the reactor core. As you are certainly aware, Cerenkov radiation intensity monitoring is one way to check for defects or missing or substituted nuclear fuel in these stored fuel assemblies. As one with experience in nuclear power generation, you must surely know this.

To claim that someone with the background of my colleague and me do not have a definition of Cerenkov radiation rattling around somewhere in our memory banks is like claiming that an accountant would have to look up the definition of a Balance Sheet.

If you have the experience you claim to have with nuclear reactor technology, you must have a definition of Cerenkov radiation in your head as well. If you do, why would you doubt that someone who lived and worked in close proximity to both power and research reactors for more than 20 years would not have the same?

Tell me, my friend, do you ever think twice before you write this stuff down?

[_Darth J]

Not to change the subject, but a differently-worded sentence describing the same phenomenon is not what plagiarism is.

Actually it is. Simply rearranging a paragraph is still plagiarism.

And since he didn't simply rearrange a paragraph, this assertion---even if assumed to be true---means nothing.

I failed a student for doing it once.

Oh, you're a professor, too? What are you a professor of?

So, you were saying something about where your sundry graduate degrees are from, and what fields they are in, and when you obtained them?

Yes. And I know how to cite sources, Dr. W does not. It is odd, I agree.

So what are your degrees in, and where and when did you get them?

I got a B.S. in psychology at the University of Utah in 1997 (actually awarded in 1998) and a juris doctor from the University of Utah College of Law in 2000.

Okay, your turn!