YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:39 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:05 pm
Most people would have found a quote online using Google, quoted it, and provided a link so that people could verify what was being said.
You are requesting links to Alyssa Grenfell's story. Here they are. The quotes are in the links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSu8cD_ ... iesPodcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bhRGnU ... ishPodcast

I notice that often when you really have no 'comeback' to what I'm saying you go off on what you think is some kind of technicality. It's rather transparent, by the way. I think the points I've made are relevant and stand on their own.

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Projecting there are you, MG 2.0?
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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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sock puppet wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:50 pm
Projecting there are you, MG 2.0?
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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:51 pm
sock puppet wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:50 pm
Projecting there are you, MG 2.0?
TTOC
by him and the LDS apologists on the point to which the TTOC is thrown up by MG 2.0.
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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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sock puppet wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:52 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:51 pm
TTOC
by him and the LDS apologists on the point to which the TTOC is thrown up by MG 2.0.
I notice that you didn't actually add to the discussion.

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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:54 pm
sock puppet wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:52 pm
by him and the LDS apologists on the point to which the TTOC is thrown up by MG 2.0.
I notice that you didn't actually add to the discussion.

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To your insightful TTOC discussion? ha ha ha
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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:39 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:05 pm
Most people would have found a quote online using Google, quoted it, and provided a link so that people could verify what was being said.
You are requesting links to Alyssa Grenfell's story.
No. I requested you provide quotes from Alyssa that supported what you said about her. Your AI harvested out of context snippets of what may or may not be in the links you have now decided to put up, don’t do it. Can you provide a link to a transcript of the whole interview?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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To your insightful TTOC discussion? ha ha ha
Meh.

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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 am
To me it's a question of how deeply her previous testimony entered into her heart and mind. She initially had issues with gender roles, marriage expectations, and personal autonomy, as well as her own experiences dealing with shame, indoctrination, and struggles with mental health while a member. There is more to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and its theology/doctrine than these personal grievances.

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Her mental health struggles were just a personal grievance? Are you for real?
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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 8:10 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:39 pm
You are requesting links to Alyssa Grenfell's story.
No. I requested you provide quotes from Alyssa that supported what you said about her. Your AI harvested out of context snippets of what may or may not be in the links you have now decided to put up, don’t do it. Can you provide a link to a transcript of the whole interview?
Are YouTube videos and the Mormonish videos provided with transcripts? Maybe you can help out with that.

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Re: YouTuber Alyssa Grenfell Has Cost The Church 2.4 Million Dollars

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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 8:16 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:21 am
To me it's a question of how deeply her previous testimony entered into her heart and mind. She initially had issues with gender roles, marriage expectations, and personal autonomy, as well as her own experiences dealing with shame, indoctrination, and struggles with mental health while a member. There is more to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and its theology/doctrine than these personal grievances.

Regards,
MG
Her mental health struggles were just a personal grievance? Are you for real?
I'll let my statement stand as it is. If you want to twist it into something other than what it is, that is up to you.

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