You gave two links. If you were to go back point by point what are the things that you would now take issue with in your own writings? Why, at the time, didn’t you ‘catch’ Rohl’s errors? Assuming that he is mistaken, of course.
Woe man; that's way too much to be asking here. It's not necessary for me to get into all that and it would require hours of response and interaction between us. It's complicated stuff!
I APPEAL TO AUTHORITY:
The conventional chronology is established by modern Egyptology and credible Egyptologists support it fully. I have to think that includes John Gee. He knows that math doesn't lie. He knows ancient Egypt predates the figure 2300 BC. There simply is no argument he can make to counter that and maintain any credibility with his peers.
I have a great deal of personal notes saved on this subject showing how I worked tirelessly to make it work. I failed. End of story.
And that's a good end!
OK. Thanks for that response. I read your papers and it seems, along with Rohl, that there is an opening for questioning the traditional timeline. As with so many things, including Shinehah, there seems to be two sides to the coin. Faith or doubt. Often other factors may enter into the equation also. Life choices, etc.
OK. Thanks for that response. I read your papers and it seems, along with Rohl, that there is an opening for questioning the traditional timeline. As with so many things, including Shinehah, there seems to be two sides to the coin. Faith or doubt. Often other factors may enter into the equation also. Life choices, etc.
There are some gaps where anomalies are present and there is some room for adjustments but nothing so off as to make 2300 BC the start date for Egyptian history. That is simply impossible.
I read your papers and it seems, along with Rohl, that there is an opening for questioning the traditional timeline. As with so many things, including Shinehah, there seems to be two sides to the coin. Faith or doubt. Often other factors may enter into the equation also. Life choices, etc.
MG,
You should know that I clipped some snippets from this conversation and placed them up in my celestial thread here:
I invite you to go get John Gee and baby-Smoot and see what they have to say and also get prophet Nelson and a couple of educated apostles. Let's see what Mormon clowns can come up with! Can they save the Book of Abraham? Can they show us how Egypt really was founded in 2300 BC as prescribed by Joseph Smith and D&C revelations that limit civilization to having existed only 6,000 years?
LOOK, the Book of Abraham can't go anywhere in a professional world of scholarship. It's a dead issue and cannot be saved by apologetic Mormons. The story therein of *how* and *when* Egypt was founded is DOA. Egypt was not founded by a woman in 2300 BC. That never happened! It'salie! The Backyard Professor can attest to that! He knows.
DO NOT believe the evil spirit of the Book of Abraham! If you do, you are subject to false spirits that promote its continuance on a stage of religious theatrics. To do so, I curse you and you're subject to the Book of Abraham demon! You are a Mormon liar and are a child of religious hell of your own making. YOU are under the power of Satan (Lying Spirit). YOU are damned! Hellfire!
Ye, John Gee, are cursed, I rebuke you in the name of EGYPTOLOGY!
The Demon wrote:Abram, Abram, I command you to go into Egypt and relate the principles of arithmetic so that they may build pyramids before me.
Now go, get your Asiatic dirty ass down there and sit on the king's throne and declare my name!
This is a victory for Satan!
Yes, my master. I shall write the Book of Abraham.
Ye, John Gee, are cursed, I rebuke you in the name of EGYPTOLOGY!
What if Mormons believe in a different Egypt, sort of like traditional Christians claiming they worship a different Jesus, except this claim is backed up by actual history?
Ye, John Gee, are cursed, I rebuke you in the name of EGYPTOLOGY!
What if Mormons believe in a different Egypt, sort of like traditional Christians claiming they worship a different Jesus, except this claim is backed up by actual history?
Then I appeal to the racist Book of Abraham:
Verse 23,24 wrote:The land of Egypt being first discovered by a dog or a bitch, a slice from the loaf of Ham, and the daughter of Egyptus who was born in Greece, which in the Chaldean signifies Egypt, which signifies that which is forbidden because she's a whore;
When this negro woman discovered the land it was under water, who afterward settled her jungle bunnies in it; and thus, from a slice of Ham, sprang that race which preserved the priesthood ban in the land.
There, and enjoy with mustard and mayonnaise.
PS. MG, you are under the influence of an evil spirit.
What if Mormons believe in a different Egypt, sort of like traditional Christians claiming they worship a different Jesus, except this claim is backed up by actual history?
Then I appeal to the racist Book of Abraham:
Chapter 1 Verse 23,24 wrote:The land of Egypt, being first discovered by a dog or a bitch, a slice from the loaf of Ham, and the daughter of Egyptus, who was born in Greece, which in the Chaldean signifies Egypt, which signifies that which is forbidden because she's a whore;
When this negro woman discovered the land, it was underwater; she afterward settled her jungle bunnies in it; and thus, from a slice of Ham, sprang that race which preserved the priesthood ban in the land.
There, and enjoy with mustard and mayonnaise.
PS. MG, you are under the influence of an evil spirit.
Did Mormon historians try to reconcile black Jews from Greece? How did they put up with the preposterousness of these verses? Are real Egyptologists allowed at BYU?
Did Mormon historians try to reconcile black Jews from Greece? How did they put up with the preposterousness of these verses? Are real Egyptologists allowed at BYU?
Certified Egyptologists are allowed at BYU but are forbidden to focus on the claims of Egypt being founded by a negro woman bearing the Greek name "Egyptus" and are forbidden to compare dates in which Egypt was founded vs. what the Book of Abraham claims. Mormons can't do the math because it's forbidden! The General Authorities won't allow it. This is a case of knowledge being suppressed in order to try and save the Book of Abraham.
The cat is now out of the bag and Mormon apologists are stuck!
Certified Egyptologists are allowed at BYU but are forbidden to focus on the claims of Egypt being founded by a negro woman bearing the Greek name "Egyptus" and are forbidden to compare dates in which Egypt was founded vs. what the Book of Abraham claims. Mormons can't do the math because it's forbidden! The General Authorities won't allow it. This is a case of knowledge being suppressed in order to try to save the Book of Abraham.
The game is over for the Book of Abraham.
Forbidden knowledge seems to be a bugaboo for BYU. Fraudulent claims and forbidden areas of research must make things harder for educators at BYU.
Personally, I've wondered about DNA differences between the Pre-Adamites (Modern Humans) and the Mormons, but I imagine such research is off limits in Utah.
Forbidden knowledge seems to be a bugaboo for BYU. Fraudulent claims and forbidden areas of research must make things harder for educators at BYU.
Personally, I've wondered about DNA differences between the Pre-Adamites (Modern Humans) and the Mormons, but I imagine such research is off limits in Utah.
Yeah, the DNA differences that make up the timeline of humanity on planet earth is a particular point of contention but Egyptian chronology is very specific and targets actual dates. And yet Mormon scholarship attempts to pull the wool over the eyes of the members who are too stupid to figure out there is no way on God's green earth that a woman founded Egypt in 2300 BC.
Mormons can't change history and neither can their demonic inspired scripture. But they continue to claim the Book of Abraham is inspired history. Thus, they continue to LIE. That is what Mormons do best! They have perfected the art of lying.
Our friend MG, here on this board, is stuck in that lie.
