gdemetz wrote:No. It absolutely is a revelation, but it was not a new one as I stated. The doctrines which they referred to in the proclamation were revealed in this modern dispensation.
Sorry, but you and Packer are wrong. The Church corrected Packers phraseology because he misspoke when claiming it as a revelation.
In fact the only actual revelation on marriage coming via a Mormon Prophet instructed us that we should have multiple wives so that we can multiply and replenish the earth and that it wasn't adultery as long as these additional wives were virgins and as long as wife number one consented.
But feel free to show where the proclamation on the family was originally a revelation...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
gdemetz wrote:If you had the Spirit, whoops, never mind that! One is written ion the D&C as a revelation, and the others are not.
Your "Spirit" born of magic rocks through Joseph Smith's stove-pipe hat and magic rocks is nothing more than a bad case of gas.
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2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. 2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth & turn aside to myths
Wrong again! You guys just love to stay on this post and be argumentative because apparently you have nothing better to do! Of course, the doctrines referred to in the proclamation are revelations received in this dispensation! They are revelations given to modern prophets in the church! Do you think that apostate Christendom revealed that we have heavenly parents?!?
gdemetz wrote:Wrong again! You guys just love to stay on this post and be argumentative because apparently you have nothing better to do! Of course, the doctrines referred to in the proclamation are revelations received in this dispensation! They are revelations given to modern prophets in the church! Do you think that apostate Christendom revealed that we have heavenly parents?!?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
No, this time you do the work! You have the family proclamation, right? So, you try to find anything from apostate Christendom which talk about heavenly parents!
Mormonism is Christian, believes in Christian scripture and expounds Christian scripture. Apostate Christendom tries to twist and pervert the scripture to fit their own beliefs and basically denies the "restitution of all things" as prophesied in the Christian scriptures.
gdemetz wrote:Mormonism is Christian, believes in Christian scripture and expoundsChristian scripture.
As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.
expound (v.tr.): 1. To give a detailed statement of; set forth 2. To explain in detail; elucidate
by the way We believe the Bible (the basic Christian scripture) to be the word of God far as it is translated correctly.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
"We believe the Bible to be the word of God in so far as it is translated correctly." Translation: "We believe the Bible to be the word of God in so far as we can use it to support our false additions to it and when it doesn't we claim to right to take those passages out of context." I wonder why Joseph Smith sought to include so much of this badly translated book into the Book of Mormon...even in the ancient language of King James. I wonder, too, why the Mormon Church doesn't do its own "correct" translation? Wait as minute, didn't Joseph Smith do just that and declare it "finished"? I suspect the Mormon Church would use it except for the ridicule that would be heaped upon them by the scholarly world.
Albion, you keep avoiding the points which I make and continue to try to discuss things of which you don't know what you are talking about! Joseph Smith was martyred before he could finish the translation! Also, one has to be very naïve to not know that there are errors in the Bible!