Kate Kelly and Cyberbullying

[_DarkHelmet]

This same argument could be made by the FLDS. I would guess 90% of testimony bearing FLDS women support polygamy. I would also bet that 99% of women in the middle east who wear Burka's and walk behind their husbands see no reason why they should be allowed to take off the Burka and walk beside their husband.

Actually, for a period I had my family living with me in the Middle East and my wife said she felt liberated by many aspects of their culture, most especially the dress standards. You shouldn't assume to know things about things you know nothing about. Now feel free to twist the meaning of my comment as advocating that women should wear bags over their head and walk behind their husbands.

you're the one who claimed most LDS women don't feel oppressed. I'm just pointing out that we shouldn't expect those who grew up in an oppressive culture to feel oppressed.

[_Bazooka]

You shouldn't assume to know things about things you know nothing about.

I love irony.

[_Darth J]

what afflicts your soul so deeply

Pictured: a Kafkaeseque abyss of angst



This is an interesting surrealist, post modern recursive plot you have going with the Water Dog character now, by the way. "I'm not a troll, but I'm trolling the crap out of you, if I was trolling, which I'm not, but I am such a good troll that I am trolling without even doing it." It's starting to remind me of Barton Fink or Being John Malkovich. Much better artistry than the chronic troll characters of stemelbow or Simon Belmont who have played on this board in the past.

[_Some Schmo]

So, why are you here? Is your wife still consumed by the LDS beast? Your children? What motivates your rage? If I am a troll, which I'm not saying that I am, but if, I think I've trolled you harder and longer than probably anybody on this forum. I'm starting to chafe and you're looking downright raw. You've dedicated quite a large amount of time, which I'm sure you realize is a portion of your life, a portion you can never get back, to spewing voluminous excrement over the internet. In the name of all that is holy, whatever that may be, why oh why?

I don't know why he posts here, but I can say watching him own you post after post sure entertains me.

Maybe he does it for the same reason comedians tell jokes. People are listening.

[_consiglieri]

You demand to be given something that you couldn't achieve on your own. How does that feel?

How does one "achieve" priesthood office, Water Dog?

By turning twelve and getting everybody to raise their hand on your behalf?

Yes.

But only if you are a boy.

Women live their whole lives through and never get to "achieve" such a thing.

No matter how accomplished women may be in their personal and professional lives, they don't get to even pass the sacrament.

How does that make them feel?

Maybe you could tell me.

I only know how it would make me feel . . .

[_Arch Stanton]

I don't know why he posts here, but I can say watching him own you post after post sure entertains me.

Maybe he does it for the same reason comedians tell jokes. People are listening.

Water Dog is the man. He turned me onto this board several months ago when I was in the midst of a huge faith crises. My personal crisis developed over several deployments to Afghanistan. The fluff and happy feelings of our religion were just lost on me. I wanted substance. Ergo facto, Mormon pop culture was making me stabby. All anybody would ever say is "read, pray, trust in the Lord". Noted. but that approach has caused our parents generation to lose much ground. the socialist zombies are taking over our country, the world, where's our leaders? they just stand by and watch the carnage, applying little bandaids. I look for direction from our leadership in mobilization, even if it makes us unpopular and hated. we just want to look like the nice guys too often. I was losing focus, what is my mission. I think the church didn't expect the level of fight teh geys would bring after prop8, and lacked the fortitude to persevere. Happy to see these gargoyles getting booted, maybe we're getting our guts back.

I come back from deployment to san diego and i'm just disconnected. I can't identify. All these whiners at church, talking about how hard their life is, being given the awful trial of good looks or some crap. And it just gets worse, I realize these people have no ffing clue and live in this fantasy bubble. weak and pathetic. I'm not getting any fulfilment. We need a good history resetting war to slap all these people back into reality. Water Dog understands me though. He gets it. I came to know him training ANA and ANP on FOB Shank. He completely understood what I was going through. And putting me onto this board was one of the best things for my sanity. I don't know why he keeps crawling into this den of homos and putting up with it. well, I do, drawing out the shithouse rats has allowed me to gain some clarity, so I personally thank him for it. long road ahead, this is just the beginning.

[_consiglieri]

I think your mode of argument could be used to justify the exclusion of women from any practices.

"Women are so emotionally fragile that not being allowed to have a driver's license negates their sense of self-worth?"

"Women are so emotionally fragile that not allowing them to hold down a paying job negates their sense of self-worth?"

"Women are so emotionally fragile that not allowing them to step outside the house with an inch of their body showing negates their sense of self-worth?"

You get the idea.

The fact this line of reasoning can be used to justify keeping women from doing anything at all while simultaneously laying the blame at their feet for being so "emotionally fragile" is an indicator this is probably not a good argument.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_Darth J]

Water Dog is the man. He turned me onto this board several months ago when I was in the midst of a huge faith crises. My personal crisis developed over several deployments to Afghanistan. The fluff and happy feelings of our religion were just lost on me. I wanted substance. Ergo facto, Mormon pop culture was making me stabby. All anybody would ever say is "read, pray, trust in the Lord". Noted. but that approach has caused our parents generation to lose much ground. the socialist zombies are taking over our country, the world, where's our leaders? they just stand by and watch the carnage, applying little bandaids. I look for direction from our leadership in mobilization, even if it makes us unpopular and hated. we just want to look like the nice guys too often. I was losing focus, what is my mission. I think the church didn't expect the level of fight teh geys would bring after prop8, and lacked the fortitude to persevere. Happy to see these gargoyles getting booted, maybe we're getting our guts back.

I come back from deployment to san diego and i'm just disconnected. I can't identify. All these whiners at church, talking about how hard their life is, being given the awful trial of good looks or some crap. And it just gets worse, I realize these people have no ffing clue and live in this fantasy bubble. weak and pathetic. I'm not getting any fulfilment. We need a good history resetting war to slap all these people back into reality. Water Dog understands me though. He gets it. I came to know him training ANA and ANP on FOB Shank. He completely understood what I was going through. And putting me onto this board was one of the best things for my sanity. I don't know why he keeps crawling into this den of homos and putting up with it. well, I do, drawing out the shithouse rats has allowed me to gain some clarity, so I personally thank him for it. long road ahead, this is just the beginning.

Congratulations, Blixa. You called it.

I thought Waterlog might pull a beanboots and start posting as his "wife" at some point in this thread.

I like the "Arch Stanton" character name, too. Now the Water Dog saga is really getting somewhere. If Arch Stanton starts talking about going on a yearly fishing trip with just him and Water Dog up in the mountains in Wyoming, I'm going to lose it.

Water Dog understands me though. He gets it. He gives me the wings to fly.

[_MrStakhanovite]

Maybe he does it for the same reason comedians tell jokes. People are listening.
Water Dog is the man. He turned me onto this board several months ago when I was in the midst of a huge faith crises. My personal crisis developed over several deployments to Afghanistan. The fluff and happy feelings of our religion were just lost on me. I wanted substance. Ergo facto, Mormon pop culture was making me stabby. All anybody would ever say is "read, pray, trust in the Lord". Noted. but that approach has caused our parents generation to lose much ground. the socialist zombies are taking over our country, the world, where's our leaders? they just stand by and watch the carnage, applying little bandaids. I look for direction from our leadership in mobilization, even if it makes us unpopular and hated. we just want to look like the nice guys too often. I was losing focus, what is my mission. I think the church didn't expect the level of fight teh geys would bring after prop8, and lacked the fortitude to persevere. Happy to see these gargoyles getting booted, maybe we're getting our guts back.

I come back from deployment to san diego and i'm just disconnected. I can't identify. All these whiners at church, talking about how hard their life is, being given the awful trial of good looks or some crap. And it just gets worse, I realize these people have no ffing clue and live in this fantasy bubble. weak and pathetic. I'm not getting any fulfilment. We need a good history resetting war to slap all these people back into reality. Water Dog understands me though. He gets it. I came to know him training ANA and ANP on FOB Shank. He completely understood what I was going through. And putting me onto this board was one of the best things for my sanity. I don't know why he keeps crawling into this den of homos and putting up with it. well, I do, drawing out the shithouse rats has allowed me to gain some clarity, so I personally thank him for it. long road ahead, this is just the beginning.

I'm calling BS on this.

[_just me]

Ergo facto, Mormon pop culture was making me stabby.

This is my favorite part!!!