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Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:14 am
by IHAQ
Bumping for KevinSim
Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:25 pm
by Kishkumen
The trouble starts with the category error in the statement "I know the Church is true." There is no saving that bad situation. Stop using the phrase if you want to remain LDS.
Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:15 pm
by Philo Sofee
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:25 pm
The trouble starts with the category error in the statement "I know the Church is true." There is no saving that bad situation. Stop using the phrase if you want to remain LDS.
Perhaps they need to begin saying "I think the church is good," though even that can end up problematic.
Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:44 pm
by IHAQ
IHAQ wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:26 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:07 am
What would your organization have to do to be Not True?
I think this is a key question that gets right to the heart of the matter. Kevin, can you answer Doc's question?
Dinging for Kevin (yet again) as requested
Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:57 pm
by Moksha
I think the truth of the LDS Church can be found in the members themselves. There are so many wonderful Saints and the Church helps to focus their energies toward good deeds.
Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:07 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
IHAQ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:44 pm
IHAQ wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:26 am
I think this is a key question that gets right to the heart of the matter. Kevin, can you answer Doc's question?
Dinging for Kevin (yet again) as requested
BUMP since KS is actually answering questions this month.
- Doc
Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:07 pm
by KevinSim
IHAQ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:44 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What would your organization have to do to be Not True?
IHAQ wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:26 am
I think this is a key question that gets right to the heart of the matter. Kevin, can you answer Doc's question?
Dinging for Kevin (yet again) as requested
Not be endorsed by God. I don't know what to say other than that. As far as I know, God is capable of conveying the truth to us however S/He wants, however S/He knows will do the job.
Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:38 pm
by Marcus
KevinSim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:07 pm
IHAQ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:44 pm
Dinging for Kevin (yet again) as requested
Not be endorsed by God. I don't know what to say other than that. As far as I know, God is capable of conveying the truth to us however S/He wants, however S/He knows will do the job.
I'm curious why you would refer to the god you believe in as "S/He." In another thread you mention that "...preserving forever the quality of the lives of all seven billion people on Earth requires eventual membership in [the lds] church," indicating you believe exclusively in the lds version of god.
I am unaware of any acknowledgement or even consideration that the lds god could be a she or a he, so why would you use that language here?
Re: Why I Say I Know the LDS Church Is True
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:09 pm
by IHAQ
KevinSim wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:07 pm
IHAQ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:44 pm
Dinging for Kevin (yet again) as requested
Not be endorsed by God. I don't know what to say other than that. As far as I know, God is capable of conveying the truth to us however S/He wants, however S/He knows will do the job.
According to religious leaders, God endorses their religion. So God endorses all religions. So all religions are true, even one’s that have conflicting doctrine.
In what way is confirmation bias different to the way you describe God conveys truth?