Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

[_Doctor Scratch]

Actually, Droopy---you're right. I hope that you don't bother to go and find any evidence and that, instead, you just claim to accurately recall--based purely on your memory--something that happened "years ago." Given that this is you we're talking about, I'm sure that your recollections all by themselves have a whole ton of credibility.

Lol. Maybe, if I have the time, I'll go back and find that post where you admitted to somehow "forgetting" about a key aspect of the pre-1990 temple ceremony. I remember that poor Beastie was just aghast at your "forgetfulness" over that.

[_MsJack]

Between Droopy and "Nomad", we're getting a picture into how some people maintain faith in the LDS church.

Will admitted making the statement in question, after he initially denied making the statement in question. In response to his admission, Droopy and Nomad are willing to believe that the moderators altered Will's post in order to create a fake confession, and then Will didn't make any objection to the mods having done so.

Wow. I mean, wow.

So what we have here is two believers preferring to believe the most fanciful, unsupported nonsense rather than be forced to relinquish their cherished belief in Will's innocence.

That is apologia in a nutshell.

I would say that this is terribad apologia in a nutshell. Trust me, the competent and thoughtful apologists are shaking their heads at the displays being put on by Will's defenders.

But otherwise, QFT.

by the way, no one is contesting that doppelgängers happen on our forums. They do, and in fact, several people on the original 2009 thread wherein WilliamSchryver made his debut questioned whether or not it was the real William. Had William's denials in this thread remained consistent, I'd have likely given him the benefit of the doubt and changed my OP to note that the quote in question appeared to be the work of a doppelgänger.

However, William ignored my request for clarification on the matter, and the next mention of it on the thread was when jon asked him about the dubious quote a few days later. When jon asked him, William affirmed that he wrote it. Mystery solved.

If William's defenders want me to change my OP so as to no longer ascribe the quote to William, I'm going to need a better explanation for William's affirmation of the quote than this fanatical "THE MODERATORS DEED EET!!!" nonsense.

Like I said above: if you believe that the moderators are editing people's posts to make them say things that they did not say, I don't know why you even post here. I can deal with censorship, but I could never deal with someone changing my own words to make it look like I said something I never said, something that is the polar opposite of what I did say.

by the way, I noticed that someone registered here as Bill Schryver last week. Might I suggest one of William's sock puppets---I mean, underlings---contact him to make sure that's his handle? If not, he should probably contact the mods about nipping this impostor in the bud.

[_wenglund]

If William's defenders want me to change my OP so as to no longer ascribe the quote to William, I'm going to need a better explanation for William's affirmation of the quote than this fanatical "THE MODERATORS DEED EET!!!" nonsense.

I, for one, wouldn't think of asking you to change a thing. Your posts, from beginning to end, are the hallmark of reasonableness and impeccable analysis, and haven't the least hint of vindictiveness, rashness, or confirmation bias.

Mind you, I don't say this because gaining your approval, of all people, isn't of utmost importance to me (How could it not be given your meteoric rise to the forefront of the MD mob and atop the chart of LDS apologetic slayers?). But, rather, by way of humble explanation.

by the way, I noticed that someone registered here as Bill Schryver last week. Might I suggest one of William's sock puppets---I mean, underlings---contact him to make sure that's his handle? If not, he should probably contact the mods about nipping this impostor in the bud.

This timely concern you now have for Will imposters is further confirmation of your impartiality and purity of judgement as well as magnanimity. Truly remarkable.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_MsJack]

And after two days of non-action, yet another Willpologist rescues the thread from the bottom of the page with a frivolous, entirely unnecessary post.

[_wenglund]

Frankly, it is surreal. But then, the whole damn thing is surreal. I really don't know what to make of it.

I agree. This whole affair as been bizarre in the extreme.

As for the reaction of people like Droopy and Wade, all I can say is that it is a testament to how much hatred we have provoked in some people.

The hatred provoked in me is less than zero. So, that is quite some testament you have imagined. LOL

I can't believe that they love Will so much as detest us to the point that they can only conclude that we are really responsible for Will's current predicament.

Not only isn't this the only thing I can concluded, it didn't register on my radar until after Will's article was dumped. My focus hasn't been on Will's predicament, but rather on the reprehensible state of the MD mob.

I am not sure the basis upon which you conjured these fantasies about me, but it certainly makes this thread all the more surreal.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_wenglund]

And after two days of non-action, yet another Willpologist rescues the thread from the bottom of the page with a frivolous, entirely unnecessary post.

We are ever so grateful, though, that the newly crowned Grande Dame of MD mobocracy, has condescended to restore this thread to its unrivaled scholarly depth, and this via the quantum burst of mind-boggling dense substance of her last post. The intensity of the white-hot stream of consciousness conveyed therein will forever burn in my memory, if not throughout all time, and melt away any visage of unintended irony.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_MsJack]

the newly crowned Grande Dame of MD mobocracy

u mad, wade?

[_wenglund]

the newly crowned Grande Dame of MD mobocracy

u mad, wade?

Not at all. Just observant--in a chiding sort of way.

Truth is, I have been chortling near non-stop while posting here today. In a way, it has been very healthy since the joyful laughter has helped move the flem out of my chest, somewhat relieving my stubborn, Memorial Weekend cold. So, the good folks here have blessed me in ways they probably would never have guessed. And for that I say:

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_MsJack]

chiding

lol

Truth is, I have been chortling near non-stop while posting here today.

Willpologetics amuses me as well.

[_TrashcanMan79]

With the surge in traffic the board has been receiving lately, I felt this thread worthy of a bump.