LDS and stay at home moms?

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_Gazelam
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If your saying she had kids out of wedlock, then she has no choice other than to let some family member watch her kids while she works.

There is no other option. that's like having to work on a sunday if your schedule leaves no option. Its the "Ox in the mire".

All I'm saying is that whenever possible a Mother needs to raise her own children. If there is no reason, and a Mother is simply pawning off her kids to a sitter to satisfy her own ego, then shes in the wrong.
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Gazelam wrote:If your saying she had kids out of wedlock, then she has no choice other than to let some family member watch her kids while she works.

There is no other option. that's like having to work on a sunday if your schedule leaves no option. Its the "Ox in the mire".

All I'm saying is that whenever possible a Mother needs to raise her own children. If there is no reason, and a Mother is simply pawning off her kids to a sitter to satisfy her own ego, then shes in the wrong.


No, I didn't say she had children out of wedlock. I simply said there was no husband.

What possible difference does it make what the circumstances are? Can you think of other circumstances that would change your answer above?

Huh?
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I'll just interject here. The judge told my husband's ex that she needed to get a job. She's taken my husband back repeatedly for ups in child support. The judge told her that she should help support her child. She had a fit in court.

My husband supports 5 kids. I MUST work so she can sit at home.

Uhoh. Grumpy coming out. :)

Gaz, what about women that are divorced? You think they shouldn't work either?
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Post by _barrelomonkeys »

I think of all the things my kids would miss out on if I wasn't working. Not material things really... but opportunities. We couldn't afford piano, guitar and violin lessons. They couldn't participate in the sports. The older ones love their camps. They do drama lessons. Harry Potter club. Junior cotillion. Dance.

None of that would happen if I didn't work. I think for many women that don't have husbands that make a great deal of money (we're okay, but you know when you support 5 kids there's really never enough) they're stuck in a catch 22. You want the best for your kids. When we make judgment calls about what womenare doing, when they're doing what they do in the best interest of the children, we sometimes don't know the full story.
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Post by _Polygamy Porter »

liz3564 wrote:You see? This is useful discussion!

Why can't we learn to be a support system for each other like this in real life?

THESE are the kind of options we should be discussing at Homemaking Meetings!

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If a woman has no kids, of coarse she can work if she wants to. that's not the issue here. The issue here is whos watching the kids.

And by the way, any woman over the age of 24 whos unmarried is a menace to society.
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Post by _Gazelam »

barrelomonkeys wrote:
Gaz, what about women that are divorced? You think they shouldn't work either?


If there is no man in the home to provide for the family, then the woman is forced to work. Divirced women shoudl find a husband so they can stay at home and nurture their children.

How old are your kids Barrel?
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Gazelam wrote:If a woman has no kids, of coarse she can work if she wants to. that's not the issue here. The issue here is whos watching the kids.

And by the way, any woman over the age of 24 whos unmarried is a menace to society.
I'd say women under the age of 24, who are married or not and having babies IS a drain on society.
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Re: Jersey

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Gazelam wrote:If a woman has no kids, of coarse she can work if she wants to. that's not the issue here. The issue here is whos watching the kids.

And by the way, any woman over the age of 24 whos unmarried is a menace to society.


Here are the questions I asked you. Would you mind answering them?

No, I didn't say she had children out of wedlock. I simply said there was no husband.

What possible difference does it make what the circumstances are? Can you think of other circumstances that would change your answer above?
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Post by _Gazelam »

What possible difference does it make what the circumstances are? Can you think of other circumstances that would change your answer above?


The reason circumstances matter is because of the children. If there are children in the home, the optimal conditions is for the mother to care for them. She can't do that effectivly if shes gone for the prime 10 hours of the day.

If there is no father in the home, then the Mom is forced to work, that changes priorities, forceing the nurturer to become the provider. The optimal condition now is for another family member, be it an aunt, cousin, or grandparent to become the nurturer.

In any event, it would be best to find a new Father.
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