I get frustrated here because...

[_Daniel Peterson]

That's an interesting guess, why me. I mean, how else would I have known that Brian Hauglid and one other person were largely responsible for getting Schryver's publication canned so far in advance? I was the one who broke the news re: Hauglid. I'd like to see Dr. Peterson explain that one away.

Scratch assumes, or wants you to assume, that he's got the story right.

Scratch was also the one who broke the news re: massive cuts in the Maxwell Institute budget. (LOL)

[_rich kelsey]

But no, I'm not especially bothered that people who hate and despise my faith don't like me, either.

Hi Daniel, I just read your work: A Modern Malleus maleficarum - Reviewed by Daniel C. Peterson

It was witty, extremely well written, and held my interest. I particularly liked the humorous analogies, e.g.,

“…if, indeed, it more closely resembles an engineless Studebaker sitting on grass-covered blocks behind a dilapidated barn—it is nonetheless infinitely more sober and respectable than Loftes Tryk's literally incredible volume, a gaudily painted Volkswagen disgorging dozens of costumed clowns to the zany music of a circus calliope”

This made reading the work fun. I also think you did a good job explaining the different positions of anti-Mormon thought.

I hope that I am not considered anti-Mormon. That is not my heart.

You said,

"But no, I'm not especially bothered that people who hate and despise my faith don't like me, either."

For the record, “despise and hate” are strong words. I believe you are correct in using those words to describe certain critics. However, this critic — Rich Kelsey — does not have hate in his heart and certianly does not despise people holding to the LDS faith.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Hi Daniel, I just read your work: A Modern Malleus maleficarum - Reviewed by Daniel C. Peterson

It was witty, extremely well written, and held my interest. I particularly liked the humorous analogies, e.g.,

“…if, indeed, it more closely resembles an engineless Studebaker sitting on grass-covered blocks behind a dilapidated barn—it is nonetheless infinitely more sober and respectable than Loftes Tryk's literally incredible volume, a gaudily painted Volkswagen disgorging dozens of costumed clowns to the zany music of a circus calliope”

This made reading the work fun. I also think you did a good job explaining the different positions of anti-Mormon thought.

Thank you.

"But no, I'm not especially bothered that people who hate and despise my faith don't like me, either."

For the record, “despise and hate” are strong words. I believe you are correct in using those words to describe certain critics. However, this critic — Rich Kelsey — does not have hate in his heart and certianly does not despise people holding to the LDS faith.

I don't lump all anti-Mormons or critics together as haters, though some (I think) really are.

I suspect that, if you asked Richard Abanes, Dennis Wright, Allen Harrod, or several other similar types how I've treated them over the years, they would describe me as very polite, kind, friendly, and, perhaps, even a friend. Dan Vogel and I get along well as people, despite our very strong and fundamental disagreement.

I do think, however, that those who hate and despise my faith -- and there are many who do, including some on this board -- are very likely to dislike me, too. It doesn't surprise me. I'm fairly visible as an advocate and defender of that faith.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

I do think, however, that those who hate and despise my faith -- and there are many who do, including some on this board -- are very likely to dislike me, too. It doesn't surprise me. I'm fairly visible as an advocate and defender of that faith.

Hate is a strong word.

I hate what Mormonism does to families that do not follow the expected mold of Mormonism.

I hate to see non member families torn in half because the wife is emotionally coerced into joining and the husband does not.

I hate to see the lies perpetuated by the members about how their Mormon faith holds a monopoly on family values.

I hate seeing young 19 year old boys and 21 year old women wasting two years of their life on what amounts to nothing more than hard selling door-to-door for a church founded on nothing more than a story of magical experiences.

I hate to see intelligent people like yourself being trapped into defending what amounts to nothing more than tales of magic. Imagine what you could have accomplished with your mind had you not been roped into Mormonism by family.

I don't hate you or any Mormon members Daniel. You all are unwitting victims.

[_Daniel Peterson]

had you not been roped into Mormonism by family.

Just for the record: My father was a non-Mormon, my mother was essentially inactive, and my extended family were all either non-practicing Lutherans (on the paternal side) or well out of the Church (on the maternal side).

[_Polygamy-Porter]

had you not been roped into Mormonism by family.

Just for the record: My father was a non-Mormon, my mother was essentially inactive, and my extended family were all either non-practicing Lutherans (on the paternal side) or well out of the Church (on the maternal side).

I know that Daniel but you did spend two years on a mission hard selling Mormonism to the unwitting public and then cemented your involvement by marriage in the Mormon temple.

Let be honest here Daniel, your employer would fire you if you ever defected from Mormonism as well as virtually losing all of your family and friends.

Nothing binds like family, and in your case, your employment is a granny knot.

[_moksha]

Richard Bushman has been subjected to precisely the same kind of vituperation for the past forty-eight hours over on the so-called "Recovery" board as I am.

Maybe this was tied into the New York State legislature legalizing gay marriages and in turn opened a rift into the netherword allowing malign spirits to seek vengence on the Lord's chief historian and apologist. At least that is the theory I am testing out on this forum.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tggtPHDmrR8

[_Daniel Peterson]

Let be honest here Daniel, your employer would fire you if you ever defected from Mormonism as well as virtually losing all of your family and friends.

Nothing binds like family, and in your case, your employment is a granny knot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh2rc8KC ... re=related