Simon Belmont wrote:Constantly taunting DCP with signature lines, calling him an anti-semite when it is well known that he is a middle-east scholar and enthusiast, seeking the man's son's Amazon wish list and posting and mocking it, calling him "human dung heap" and so forth, and starting thread after thread attacking DCP. That is the moral outrage, and I assure you that it is not misdirected. If you believe it is, your moral compass is severely misaligned.
You're dodging the issue I raised, Simon. I am guessing because you have no idea what to do with the fact that your project has been provoking his malevolent stalker by posting threads about said stalker on other boards. So, as I said, you've got to feel a little used at this point, unless of course you can conjure some rationalization to cover that.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Kishkumen wrote:You're dodging the issue I raised, Simon. I am guessing because you have no idea what to do with the fact that your project has been provoking his malevolent stalker by posting threads about said stalker on other boards. So, as I said, you've got to feel a little used at this point, unless of course you can conjure some rationalization to cover that.
I'm not used. I wasn't asked to do anything. I don't even know DCP. I am seeing a wrong in the world, and I am asking for clarification about it. It's that simple. The fact that Scratch is unwilling (or unable?) to discuss the matter is very suspicious indeed.
Simon Belmont wrote:I'm not used. I wasn't asked to do anything. I don't even know DCP. I am seeing a wrong in the world, and I am asking for clarification about it. It's that simple. The fact that Scratch is unwilling (or unable?) to discuss the matter is very suspicious indeed.
Yeah, that is what makes all of this so incredibly bizarre. I mean, here we have a guy, who, for all of his other virtues, is clearly a drama queen when it comes to his quixotic apologetic tiffs with anti-Mormons or even critics of apologetics, even going so far as to stoke opposition in order to prolong the contention, and he has a fanboy like you who buys into the notion that he is nothing but a victim.
It's like everyone else gets the joke but you, Simon. There's a certain poignance to your misguided attempts at heroism.
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"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Kishkumen wrote: Yeah, that is what makes all of this so incredibly bizarre. I mean, here we have a guy, who, for all of his other virtues, is clearly a drama queen when it comes to his quixotic apologetic tiffs with anti-Mormons or even critics of apologetics, even going so far as to stoke opposition in order to prolong the contention, and he has a fanboy like you who buys into the notion that he is nothing but a victim.
It's like everyone else gets the joke but you, Simon. There's a certain poignance to your misguided attempts at heroism.
QFT.
DCP is bright enough to realize that the way he's been "dealing" with Scratch has only fanned the flames. If you truly believe someone is a malevolent stalker, you do what you can to minimize contact with that individual. DCP has done the exact opposite.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
My two cents regarding this whole Scratch/DCP feud...not that it really matters....is that although Scratch initiated it, DCP has "fanned the flames" through some of his actions. And, he has been advised by his friends to do exactly the opposite.
That said, Scratch has crossed what I would consider a moral line repeatedly with DCP. The digging up old Amazon wish lists and accrediting them to DCP, when they were, in fact, his son's, referring to DCP as an anti-semite, which does malign his reputation as both a professor of Islamic studies, and as a professor of BYU, in general, are clear examples of over the top behavior.
However, DCP is not the only person Scratch has harrassed in this way. The only way Tim Tribe could persuade Scratch to take his Linked In picture off of Scratch's website was to delete his own account from MDB, and vow never to post on MDB or MDD about apologetics again.
These are lines which I don't think that anyone has business crossing.
Light-hearted "poking" at someone is one thing. Doing things which cause problems for the person in real life are quite another.
Uh, I've hardly been "silent" on the matter, Simon. Most people here are fed up with the number of Quinn threads that have been hashed out. For some reason, you're the lone person who wants yet another round of them, apparently because you just don't "get it."
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
DCP is bright enough to realize that the way he's been "dealing" with Scratch has only fanned the flames. If you truly believe someone is a malevolent stalker, you do what you can to minimize contact with that individual. DCP has done the exact opposite.
That's a pretty unfair characterization on it all. I think DCP's stated position on why he responds is so the slew of personal attacks and attempts to assassinate his character are refuted. If unchallenged whose to say some of the attacks and allegations aren't accepted by more people.
It does seem to me that part of hte problem with DCP even giving any of this time is other's tend to go after him by assigned unpleasant motives to him. I've told him before to just ignore Scratch.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
stemelbow wrote: It does seem to me that part of hte problem with DCP even giving any of this time is other's tend to go after him by assigned unpleasant motives to him.
What?
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stemelbow wrote: It does seem to me that part of hte problem with DCP even giving any of this time is other's tend to go after him by assigned unpleasant motives to him.
What?
That was poorly stated. A negative coming from DCP's participation in this whole Scrach affair, as much as anything, is that other people tend to assign negative motives to DCP. They don't let him speak on the why's or what's. They know his reasons better than he does.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
