mfbukowski wrote: That's funny, when I am my most active and seeking the spirit, I am the happiest I can be.
I guess that's because I am stupid, right? Gosh I wish I could be smart like you!
No, some very smart people believe in the truthfulness of Mormonism and it makes them happy. From what I've seen of your posts in comparison to say bcspace, I'd say you don't come across as happy or comfortable with you beliefs. You seem a tad angry and uptight about the whole thing.
I accept I may be wrong, but that is how I see you from a limited number of psts that you've made.
Nah, I am pretty much only angry with certain people, and besides that, as I implied, my degree of anger is correlated with how close I am to the spirit
If I sound angry, I am probably not doing well spiritually.
mfbukowski wrote:Nah, I am pretty much only angry with certain people, and besides that, as I implied, my degree of anger is correlated with how close I am to the spirit
If I sound angry, I am probably not doing well spiritually.
Well, I'm sorry about that. I'm one of those annoying people who are always happy, which has nothing to do with any spirit. I have the ability to have an almost permanently positive mind set. I see it as a conscious choice that I can make. It irritates the crap out of Mrs Drifting!
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Quasimodo wrote: It's a little sad that you spend so much time picking on just me. She does a dandy job defending herself, but you are also forcing many of us to feel like we need to come to her defense.
I would suggest that you pick on someone your own size, but I don't believe there is anyone else on this board that small.
I linked to the manual that had a lesson on perfection. It disagreed with just me. What more can I say? I do remember the manuals. Lets try this again with the link:
mfbukowski wrote:That's funny, when I am my most active and seeking the spirit, I am the happiest I can be.
I guess that's because I am stupid, right? Gosh I wish I could be smart like you!
I wasn't very happy at my most active and spirit-seeking, but I'm glad it has worked for you. I don't think you're stupid, nor do I think anyone who finds happiness in the church stupid. We're just different.
Runtu wrote: Yep, that's the church I remember. I don't know which one why me attended.
I don't know...I just read the manuals like the one I linked to above.
It's interesting to see a person who has admitted to never being active in church tell another person who has been very active almost their entire life how the church really is.
why me wrote: I linked to the manual that had a lesson on perfection. It disagreed with just me. What more can I say? I do remember the manuals. Lets try this again with the link:
Yep, that Correlation Committee sure is good at quote mining. In that talk from the October 1995 General Conference by Russel M. Nelson that this lesson manual quotes, he distinguishes between mortal perfection and eternal perfection. Shall we read some more from that talk and see if there is any validity to what Just Me says? Scriptures have described Noah, Seth, and Job as perfect men. No doubt the same term might apply to a large number of faithful disciples in various dispensations. Alma said that “there were many, exceedingly great many,” who were pure before the Lord.
This does not mean that these people never made mistakes or never had need of correction. The process of perfection includes challenges to overcome and steps to repentance that may be very painful. There is a proper place for chastisement in the molding of character, for we know that “whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth.”
Mortal perfection can be achieved as we try to perform every duty, keep every law, and strive to be as perfect in our sphere as our Heavenly Father is in his. If we do the best we can, the Lord will bless us according to our deeds and the desires of our hearts.
Buffalo wrote:When I was at my most devout, I was also at my most miserable. I know you've never been a devout Mormon, but you should try it sometime. You'll miss your days as an inactive schlub.
That's funny, when I am my most active and seeking the spirit, I am the happiest I can be.
I guess that's because I am stupid, right? Gosh I wish I could be smart like you!
That's funny, because when I was 7 years old, and I believed that the presents I got on Christmas morning came from Santa Claus, it made me really happy, too.
why me wrote: I linked to the manual that had a lesson on perfection. It disagreed with just me. What more can I say? I do remember the manuals. Lets try this again with the link:
Yep, that Correlation Committee sure is good at quote mining. In that talk from the October 1995 General Conference by Russel M. Nelson that this lesson manual quotes, he distinguishes between mortal perfection and eternal perfection. Shall we read some more from that talk and see if there is any validity to what Just Me says? Scriptures have described Noah, Seth, and Job as perfect men. No doubt the same term might apply to a large number of faithful disciples in various dispensations. Alma said that “there were many, exceedingly great many,” who were pure before the Lord.
This does not mean that these people never made mistakes or never had need of correction. The process of perfection includes challenges to overcome and steps to repentance that may be very painful. There is a proper place for chastisement in the molding of character, for we know that “whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth.”
Mortal perfection can be achieved as we try to perform every duty, keep every law, and strive to be as perfect in our sphere as our Heavenly Father is in his. If we do the best we can, the Lord will bless us according to our deeds and the desires of our hearts.
Ah, there it is. Back to classic Mormonism again.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Yeah, I definitely took it too seriously. I wanted eternal happiness and blessings. I wanted god to love me, dammit.
Joke was on me. LMAO
Of course, this is what happens when you tell rule-followers and perfectionists things like this. Are we really surprised that certain personality types take this stuff seriously?
I'm not.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
just me wrote:Yeah, I definitely took it too seriously. I wanted eternal happiness and blessings. I wanted god to love me, dammit.
Joke was on me. LMAO
Of course, this is what happens when you tell rule-followers and perfectionists things like this. Are we really surprised that certain personality types take this stuff seriously?
I'm not.
I've always found this quote from President Hinckley appropriate:
When they come into this Church they’re expected to conform. And they find happiness in that conformity.