Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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Corpsegrinder wrote:In which case the sticking point would be all that improvable supernatural stuff.

Uh... no. The stickingpoint, specifically, and completely, is the Diviinity of Christ.
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Corpsegrinder wrote:When you say "religions included" you mean Christianity too, right?

No. Religions included obviously does NOT include Christianity. Because words really have no meaning, and they can represent a whole range of ideas that are seperate and different from how those words are commonly used.

I'm done. Good night.
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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Hoops wrote:
Corpsegrinder wrote:In which case the sticking point would be all that improvable supernatural stuff.

Uh... no. The stickingpoint, specifically, and completely, is the Diviinity of Christ.

Okay, have it your way, the sticking point is the biggest chunk of all the improvable supernatural stuff in the Bible.
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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Hoops wrote:I thought we agreed that if you're going waste my time with ridiculous parsing then we'll just go our different ways.

For what it's worth...
PARSE, verb
1. analyse (a sentence) into its component parts and describe their syntactic roles.
2. Computing analyse (text) into logical syntactic components.

Was I parsing? Of course. Was I engaging in "ridiculous parsing"? Certainly not.

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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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Hoops wrote:
Corpsegrinder wrote:But I’m still not a Christian because I reject the supernatural aspects of the Christ myth, right?

The sticking point seems to be all that improvable supernatural stuff.

No, that's not what I wrote. One can not be a Christian and reject the Divinity of Christ.

15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”


And Jesus answered "this is an absolute requirement to be a Christian."
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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Buffalo wrote:The conscientious alternative to any superstition is secular humanism.

Secular Humanism does an adequate job of meeting humanity's short term needs. What does it do for humanity's long term needs? Is Secular Humanism making progress in ensuring that some good things will last forever?
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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Polygamy-Porter wrote:Jeezuz man! Reach back and pull the garmies outta your butt crack! He was JOKING.

Oops! I walked right into that one, didn't I?
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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KevinSim wrote:
Buffalo wrote:The conscientious alternative to any superstition is secular humanism.

Secular Humanism does an adequate job of meeting humanity's short term needs. What does it do for humanity's long term needs? Is Secular Humanism making progress in ensuring that some good things will last forever?


Which good things? You say this all the time! Which "good things" are capable of lasting forever? How does Mormonism insure it?
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
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MrStakhanovite wrote:Can something even endure or perdure forever?

I'm reasonably certain that nothing good will last forever if nobody is actively working to preserve it.

But as for whether it's even possible for something good to last forever, why not? Humanity has made enormous progress over the years accomplishing things previously thought impossible. Who knows whether or not it can actually preserve forever some good things?

MrStakhanovite wrote:Does forever mean an infinite time span or does it mean just until time runs down?

Forever means an infinite time span.

MrStakhanovite wrote:What good things need to exist forever, and what mode of existence are we speaking about?

Any good thing. If something causes good things to happen, and its influence for good never has an end, then that's the mode of existence I'm speaking about.

MrStakhanovite wrote:Can we equate the existence of a concrete real thing with the existence had by an abstract object that is a-causal?

Could you be more specific here? I don't think I understand what you're asking.
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism

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What is Mormonism doing to insure that chocolate and sex are preserved forever?
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
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