DCP Responds to Getting "Fired" from the Review

[_bcspace]

Any conformation yet that any of this is true, especially the emails?

[_Wilma Fingerdoo]

Any conformation yet that any of this is true, especially the emails?

I have prayed and fasted and through the power of the holy ghost all things are true.

You can't deny those warm weird feelings in your stomach.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

Any conformation yet that any of this is true, especially the emails?

I have prayed and fasted and through the power of the holy ghost all things are true.

You can't deny those warm weird feelings in your stomach.

LMAO!!

[_Drifting]

Any conformation yet that any of this is true, especially the emails?

Have you any specific reason to believe it isn't true?

[_Rollo Tomasi]

In any case, here is DCP's reply to Bradford:

From: Daniel Peterson
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:18 PM
To: <[M. Gerald Bradford] xxx@xxx.xxx> [18 other recipients, redacted for privacy]
Subject: Re: Charting a new course

Dr. Bradford:

You've achieved your goal. I resign.

...

Daniel C. Peterson
Tiberias, Israel

I find all this quite extraordinary. I simply never expected it. I know that DCP has had several public missteps lately, but throwing out the 'face' of FARMS/NAMIR seems a real overreaction, in my opinion. Personally, I think Bradford's doing this while DCP is traveling on the other side of the world reeks of cowardice. I have no animus towards DCP. I don't like his style and rarely agree with anything he says/writes, but I respect his intellect, dedication to the cause, etc. I don't wish for anyone to be publicly humiliated like this, but, as it typical with the Church and/or BYU, change is often handled poorly. I don't doubt that DCP will 'bounce back.' He will continue as a BYU professor and probably tone down his apologia. I am heartened by what appears to be a step toward civility when it comes to LDS apologist efforts -- I detest the "hit pieces" so common with FARMS (I have a particular distaste for the tactics of Lou Midgely, with whom I became personally acquainted several decades ago -- I hated his style then and still do now), so I believe some real good will come out of this. At least I hope so ....

[_lulu]

Any conformation yet that any of this is true, especially the emails?

Have you any specific reason to believe it isn't true?

Any denials yet?

[_Kishkumen]

I find all this quite extraordinary. I simply never expected it. I know that DCP has had several public missteps lately, but throwing out the 'face' of FARMS/NAMIR seems a real overreaction, in my opinion. Personally, I think Bradford's doing this while DCP is traveling on the other side of the world reeks of cowardice. I have no animus towards DCP. I don't like his style and rarely agree with anything he says/writes, but I respect his intellect, dedication to the cause, etc. I don't wish for anyone to be publicly humiliated like this, but, as it typical with the Church and/or BYU, change is often handled poorly. I don't doubt that DCP will 'bounce back.' He will continue as a BYU professor and probably tone down his apologia. I am heartened by what appears to be a step toward civility when it comes to LDS apologist efforts -- I detest the "hit pieces" so common with FARMS (I have a particular distaste for the tactics of Lou Midgely, with whom I became personally acquainted several decades ago -- I hated his style then and still do now), so I believe some real good will come out of this. At least I hope so ....

There is a lot of truth to what you are saying here. And, while I think your point about Bradford's move "reeking of cowardice" is understandable, you may underestimate the kind of war that would have ensued had he done this when Peterson was present. Listen, do any of us imagine that Brian Hauglid has been targeted as a turncoat by Will Schryver in some kind of vacuum? Where does this attitude come from? It is not unique to him. It is the same kind of attitude that is evident in the Review's treatment of other members. Once you become critical of anything that is done, you are the enemy, and you will be taught a lesson about tangling with the Boss.

My guess is that he probably felt that the only hope he had of pulling this off without having his ass handed to him on a plate was to wait until the bear was off hunting salmon at a far away river. It is almost impossible to stage-manage him at home (like Elder Packer, the Big Boss). Of course, we will never know for sure, but in the Review's editorial team you have an entrenched culture that has long been sustained by a handful of very powerful personalities, and they would come down on anyone who crossed them in their mission like a ton of bricks.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

My guess is that he probably felt that the only hope he had of pulling this off without having his ass handed to him on a plate was to wait until the bear was off hunting salmon at a far away river. It is almost impossible to stage-manage him at home (like Elder Packer, the Big Boss). Of course, we will never know for sure, but in the Review's editorial team you have an entrenched culture that has long been sustained by a handful of very powerful personalities, and they would come down on anyone who crossed them in their mission like a ton of bricks.

Certainly possible, and, if so, then I can only imagine what will happen when Dan returns to the States soon (if he's not already back). It could be a proverbial bloodbath. I have no doubt that Dan feels wronged, and, now, publicly humiliated. I imagine he has GA-friends of his own and will likely seek their help. Bradford himself could be a casualty of this mess. Dan is not one to roll over, in my opinion, and the tone in his response to Bradford suggests he's ready to go to war upon his return. I hope Scratch's informant keeps us updated on developments, because what happens in the next few days could have major consequences for LDS apologia for a very long time.

[_Kishkumen]

Certainly possible, and, if so, then I can only imagine what will happen when Dan returns to the States soon (if he's not already back). It could be a proverbial bloodbath. I have no doubt that Dan feels wronged, and, now, publicly humiliated. I imagine he has GA-friends of his own and will likely seek their help. Bradford himself could be a casualty of this mess. Dan is not one to roll over, in my opinion, and the tone in his response to Bradford suggests he's ready to go to war upon his return. I hope Scratch's informant keeps us updated on developments, because what happens in the next few days could have major consequences for LDS apologia for a very long time.

Yes. I do not envy Dr. Bradford the wrath that will be visited upon him, if it has not already started. Yahoo Bot was absolutely correct in stating that this is not over.

[_Shulem]

Yes. I do not envy Dr. Bradford the wrath that will be visited upon him, if it has not already started. Yahoo Bot was absolutely correct in stating that this is not over.

Oh. It's over. All this was not just done overnight over the whims of an executive director. He had it cleared through his boss and so up the line. Peterson has been put out by the powers that be and there is nothing he can do about it. He admitted to being checkmated and has lost. Game over.

Paul O