gdemetz wrote:Spanner, there were many evidences listed on those articles! Were those evidences that clearly proved that there were horses when the Spanish came? No. However, as I stated before, there is no evidence to the contrary (and I know the difficulty in proving a negative), and there are numerous indicators, such as the ones mentioned, that there were.
And as we have also stated, your premise means you have to also accept that there were dinosaurs roaming the Book of Mormon lands/era because the same indicators you use or horses exist for them too.
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gdemetz wrote:I've given two already, and even if I gave 100, you guys would still not accept it because you want to believe what you want to believe. It's that simple! You give me a reference that proves there were no horses on the continent when the Spanish arrived!
I would accept evidence if there were solid science behind it. Everything I've read on this subject ends up a dead end as far as pre-Columbian horses are concerned. Can we prove that there were no horses anywhere in the Americas when the Spanish arrived? Nope, as it's pretty hard to prove a negative. But we can say with a great degree of certainty that they were not used as beasts of burden or for transportation and that there is no archaeological evidence for anything past the ice age.
It's hard to even discuss these issues with someone who is so biased that they already have a conclusion regardless the evidence, and a total lack of understanding of science and what would constitute evidence. He will not even want to consider why LDS scientists would disagree with him, and probably most apologists.
gdemetz wrote:Biased? there is much more evidence that horses may have existed on the American Continent when the Spanish arrived than not!
One has to wonder why a group of scientists who have no agenda to believe either way disagree with you, and then add on those who would have some reason to believe Horses did exist(LDS scientists and apologists) but also disagree with you.
gdemetz wrote:Themis, the scientists who believe that are not all LDS.
Please provide an example....
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
gdemetz wrote:Themis, the scientists who believe that are not all LDS.
Please provide an example....
schreech, you may want to make yourself comfortable, make a drink etc cos this may take a while...
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator