Maksutov wrote:Dude. You think I couldn't find lesbian porn on the internet? Come on. Ain't nothin' about a self absorbed histrionic exMormon that gets me hot.
(I have a snappy come back to that, I'll stifle it)
FS says it well:
"Stuff like this makes it more difficult for those of us who are still looking for constructive dialogue with our TBM friends and family."
Yep. Some of us are seeking to coexist with Mormons.
I recently strongly disagreed with you in another forum about a thing, but just as strongly as I disagreed there I stronly agree with you on this.
And it's not just that some of you folks are seeing to coexist with Mormons. The impact of this divisive mentality is far greater and far reaching and you have only to look at what's going on politically to understand that.
That said, we have kids who are in despair on account of their sexual orientation or that of their parents. They are engaging in self harm and many have suicided on account of how society and religion treats them. They, like so many ex-LDS, have been distanced from and cut off by their own families.
They deserve a shot just like you or I or anyone else has had in this world. They deserve acceptance and understanding, our empathy and our compassion. They deserve our support vocal or practical or otherwise.
We have someone like Savannah, a young girl who bravely spoke her truth in her own church, was cut off and that very silence shot through our world because it spoke volumes and uniquely demonstrated (on video for all to see) how LGBTQ youth (and if we are aware, gay parents as well) are treated with disdain by their own church.
Then we have Norton who befriended her, created a trusted relationship with her and now the unholy “F” is planning to desecrate a house of worship using adult women (who are willing) to do it--yet again on video.
Where did Savannah and others like her, knowingly sign up for this crap?
She effectively put a face on advocacy for gay youth and their families. She herself is one who would have been victimized by the goddamn worthiness interviews that Sam Young has brought attention to.
And Norton via his association with Savannah, Sam, and the counter Mormon groups is going to “F” it up all to hell and back again because the press and the impact to victims of TFC is going to ratchet up the anti-anti-Mormon, LGBTQ youth and LGBTQ parents church rhetoric well beyond screaming level and set back advocacy for only god knows how long until this crap gets sorted out and overcome because yahoo Norton couldn't contain himself.
The writing is on the wall illuminated by flashing neon lights, strobes and alarms sounding and people are making light of this.
I maintain that the desecration of an alleged holy place is not the answer to these issues. It doesn't matter to me that this isn't my house of worship (I don't really have one to begin with) and whether or not one is believer or non, has no relevance. For god sakes, this is a horribly ill conceived and potentially dangerous move on Norton's part.
Religion is all too often used to promote hatred and condemnation of the other. I don't personally give a whack in hell if Norton shoots himself in the foot but this plan of his is going to at least temporarily “F” up several types of advocacy movements and will be used against the very people that most of us hope and try to support including the LGBTQ community, vulnerable youth and the relationships that some of you folks are trying to maintain with your own loved ones.
