Allen Wyatt, Mike Parker & FAIR: A Growing Fear of Dehlin?

[_RockSlider]

My message to FAIR/FARMS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmj6JADOZ-8

Please stop. You're hurting people.

perfect!

just stop!

[_static]

This is just too juicy to pass up!

I love conspiracy theories; the crazier, the better. I used to automatically reject them, but I've since learned my lesson. I believe all are true until proven otherwise.

In this case, we have no evidence whatever for this "hit piece," aside from a few far-out conspiracy theories, but it must exist! It must exist because it would fulfill the wildest fantasies of all who hate the apologists.

And therefore it does exist. I believe in it. If you wish hard enough, it can be true for you, too!

[_lostindc]

This is just too juicy to pass up!

I love conspiracy theories; the crazier, the better. I used to automatically reject them, but I've since learned my lesson. I believe all are true until proven otherwise.

In this case, we have no evidence whatever for this "hit piece," aside from a few far-out conspiracy theories, but it must exist! It must exist because it would fulfill the wildest fantasies of all who hate the apologists.

And therefore it does exist. I believe in it. If you wish hard enough, it can be true for you, too!

There is eyewitness evidence of the existence of the "hit piece." Add to the fact, DCP did not deny the existence of the text in his recent post pertaining to the text.

[_SteelHead]

Somebody leak this sucka through back channels. I suggest paste bin.

[Guest]

There is eyewitness evidence of the existence of the "hit piece."

Yes, as I said, I believe this wacky conspiracy theory to be 100% true. After all, we have someone saying they saw something. That's proof enough for me!

I just saw Nessie. That's eyewitness proof right there!

Add to the fact, DCP did not deny the existence of the text in his recent post pertaining to the text.

Add to the fact that DCP did not deny the existence of Nessie, I think we have a solid case here, lostindc.

I wonder what else DCP didn't deny the existence of.....

[_mormonstories]

This is just too juicy to pass up!

I love conspiracy theories; the crazier, the better. I used to automatically reject them, but I've since learned my lesson. I believe all are true until proven otherwise.

In this case, we have no evidence whatever for this "hit piece," aside from a few far-out conspiracy theories, but it must exist! It must exist because it would fulfill the wildest fantasies of all who hate the apologists.

And therefore it does exist. I believe in it. If you wish hard enough, it can be true for you, too!

You guys are awesome. In my desire to respect the leaders of the church you claim to defend....you use that against me and claim plausible deniability. Classic.

Just go ask Daniel Peterson if he was about to publish a multi-page, footnoted critique of me in the latest version of his journal. Here's his email address: daniel_peterson@BYU.edu. Go ask Greg Smith if he authored a lengthy article criticizing me and my work at Mormon Stories. Ask them if GA's got involved and shut the whole thing down.

All you have to do is ask them...then return...and report. If they deny it, they are lying.

But you won't. Predictable.

[_static]

You guys are awesome. In my desire to respect the leaders of the church you claim to defend....you use that against me and claim plausible deniability. Classic.

Just go ask Daniel Peterson if he was about to publish a multi-page, footnoted critique of me in the latest version of his journal. Here's his email address: daniel_peterson@BYU.edu. Go ask Greg Smith if he authored a lengthy article criticizing me and my work at Mormon Stories. All you have to do is ask them...then return...and report. But you won't. Predictable.

Pardon me. I thought we were talking about a "hit piece" that was supposed to be "100 pages," not a "multi-page, footnoted critique." My god, man! If someone can't write a critique then what can they do?

And no, I will not ask them. As I said, I believe your wacky theories - all of them.

[_Stormy Waters]

Yes, as I said, I believe this wacky conspiracy theory to be 100% true. After all, we have someone saying they saw something. That's proof enough for me!

I just saw Nessie. That's eyewitness proof right there!

I'll keep this in mind next time someone mentions the witnesses for the Book of Mormom.

[_Fence Sitter]

The Mopologists have publicly targeted a lot of people: Mike Quinn, Grant Palmer, Tom Murphy, Brent Metcalfe, Dan Vogel, Rodney Meldrum, and many, many others. I don't think I would describe any of these people as actually wanting to do "harm" to Mormonism, but that hasn't stopped the Mopologists from wanting to destroy their reputations in Mormon circles. One very prominent Mormon scholar once told me that Midgley, Peterson, and Hamblin view all of this as "a game." To them it's fun to attack these people, to tear them apart and watch as the "unwashed masses" lap all of it up. So it must really sting for somebody like DCP when he is castigated by the younger guys, like LoaP and the narrator. The good news seems to be that change is on the horizon. Yes: they've handed off the torch to Greg Smith, who is really turning out to be extraordinarily rotten, but apart from him, I don't think there will be many others who will be willing to perpetuate this "rotten enterprise."

for what it's worth I was a student of Midgley's in the early 80's and heard a few conversations where he talked about people like Shipps and Mormon history in general. I actually attended a meeting of sorts at a residence where several of the BYU professors were sharing their views about history. (Besides Midgley the only other professor I can remember being there was David Bohn.) It has been a long time so I do not remember the specifics of any conversations, yet to this day I remember how much Midgley seemed to be enjoying the whole affair. His eyes would light up when he used terms like "this is a war" and "everyone wears rose colored glasses".

[_SteelHead]

Taint it funny?

The protesters of the existence of the hit piece are the selfsame promoters of:
seer stones
golden plates
angels with flaming swords
Book of Abraham
civilizations for which not a scrap of evidence has been found in a 180 years of looking.

But if they follow John's suggestion and went to the horses mouth................ What do you think will happen?