What do LDS generally believe about interracial marriage?

[_Mister Scratch]

I guess what I, as a newcomer, hope for from everyone (yes, everyone) in this forum is to be so much less concerned with being "right" and more concerned with being truthful.

Shades's claim was not truthful.

It was every bit as truthful as your claim that "not one dime" of your salary comes from apologetics.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Give it a rest, Scratch.

i don't have the energy to go back through the thread right now and pick out different quotes, but several people were trying to point that out to you.

I saw none of that.

i think that, if they were like me, it took them a while to figure out that really the issue you were taking was with the over-application of the word "interracial". i personally assumed that you must've been trying to argue something else more meaningful until you put it into blatantly clear terms that that's what you were out to show.

I put it in "blatantly" clear terms from the beginning.

And I see it as very meaningful. Not trivial at all.

then why the tone still? i have to be honest that i get as much or more attitude from your posts as anyone else here. although, i could be reading you wrong.

You are. I'm forthright, but I'm not vicious.

admittedly, the great downfall of this type of venue is that the most sophisticated means we have of conveying our intonation is through emoticons. ugh.

I hate emoticons, and almost never use them.

[_Mister Scratch]

Give it a rest, Scratch.

You first, Professor P. Your battle fatigue is showing, by the way. Why don't you tell FloatingBoy about how you're paid up to $20,000 to attack critics like Dr. Shades?

[_Daniel Peterson]

Why don't you tell FloatingBoy about how you're paid up to $20,000 to attack critics like Dr. Shades?

For the same reason you haven't told him about your central role in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.

[_floatingboy]

i'd rather not be brought into the same sort of ill-willed exchanges that i was pointing out to dan.

[_Daniel Peterson]

i'd rather not be brought into the same sort of ill-willed exchanges that i was pointing out to dan.

You're wise.

The Scratchite nonsense has been going on for about three years. As long as I respond to him, it will never end. However, I find the phenomenon oddly fascinating.

[_Yoda]

Why don't you tell FloatingBoy about how you're paid up to $20,000 to attack critics like Dr. Shades?

For the same reason you haven't told him about your central role in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.

I thought it was JFK.

[_Mister Scratch]

i'd rather not be brought into the same sort of ill-willed exchanges that i was pointing out to dan.

Is that possible? DCP has never shown himself to be capable of interacting with critics in a civil way. If there is a single instance of him doing this, I'd be interested in seeing it. I'm willing to wager that such an exchange does not exist. He seems constitutionally incapable of keeping personal attack, incivility, condescension, and hostility off the table.

[_Daniel Peterson]

I thought it was JFK.

Him too.

Mister Scratch, overheard singing to himself:

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[_antishock8]

Surely the LDS church is teaching impressionable young minds to disregard racism?

Here’s a quote from Aaronic Priesthood Manual 3, Lesson 31:

“We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally, and of somewhat the same economic and social and educational background (some of those are not an absolute necessity, but preferred), and above all, the same religious background, without question” (“Marriage and Divorce,” in 1976 Devotional Speeches of the Year [Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 1977], p. 144).

Is this from the current Aaronic Priesthood manual?

So. We have a professor from BYU who supports BY's racist views. We have a 30-something virgin never-been-married type parroting the Mormon church's racist and classist position on marriage. All we need is for Droopy to pop in and drop the N-word on us and this thread will be complete!